RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #11


I am going to plant a new seedling sometime next week in the hopes that
I will have some pumpkins on it to pass out to friends, but I will
likely be keeping fruit on the vine up to the last week of October, just
to get as much size out of them as possible.  I live a couple of hours
up the road from you, so I am familiar with your climate.  I would
imagine the heat you get in Hayward would help push your plants along
pretty good, and you should have some nice sized pumpkins in October.
They will probably still have some room to grow into, but that probably
won't matter for your sale.  You should still have something to sell.

Toby

mr-sprout@sbcglobal.net


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From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Tad Miller
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 8:23 AM
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #11

Tad here from Cub Pack 819

I have a questions on Days to Maturity.  Are these ground in stone, or
do they vary by climate.  I found a University Agricultrure site that
studied pumpkins planted at different times of the season (May to June
10th).  Their Study showed that the pumpkins planted on June 10th yeiled
the greatest Lbs of total pumpkins.  

I live in Hayward, CA  (just south of Oakland)  We are finally able to
plant in our field this weekend.  Hope we have enough time for the 110
day maturity pumpkins before we have our Fall Fundraising pumpkin sale.
Or should I use Miricle grow or some other type of furtilizer. 

Any thoughts, comments would be appreciated. 

Thanks 

Tad / Cub Master Pack 819

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Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:01 AM
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Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #11



pumpkins DIGEST         Tuesday, June 22 2004         Volume 01 : Number
011



In this issue:

        RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #8
        Re: Hello from a newbie

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:26:19 -0700
From: "Tad Miller" <tmiller@gschq.com>
Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #8

Has anyone heard of "Pink Pumpkins"?  My wife would like to know.  I
thought I saw a mention of them last year wile searchin the internernet,
but have not been able to find them again. 

Thanks 

Tad 
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #8



pumpkins DIGEST        Saturday, June 19 2004        Volume 01 : Number
008



In this issue:

        Re: I thought it was June
        Re: Weird
        Re: Weird
        RE: Weird
        RE: Weird

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Date: 18 Jun 2004 08:21 GMT
From: "Martin Reiss" <320097912067-0002@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: I thought it was June

Hi Don,

I know how you feel. We got 5 frost nights very late in May this year. I
was able to save most of my plants but other growers in Germany had far
less luck... Just two days ago temps went down to 2.90C again...... not
too far away from freezing. Hope you will get no damage!

Best wishes,

Martin Reiss 
Germany


"Don Crews" <bigandorange@shaw.ca> schrieb:
>       Environment Canada's Official Canadian Weather Warnings
> 
> Lloydminster-Wainwright-Vermilion-Provost
> 3:18 PM MDT Thursday 17 June 2004
> 
> Frost warning for
> Lloydminster-Wainwright-Vermilion-Provost issued
> Frost is likely over many areas of central Alberta late tonight.
> 
> 
> A large high pressure area over the western prairies will bring
> clearing
> skies and light winds overnight to central Alberta. With these 
> conditions temperatures in an already cool airmass will likely drop to

> near or below the freezing point towards sunrise.
> 
> 
> 
> Thats nice isn't it.  I think this is the fourth frost warning this
> June
> and they have been right every time. Good luck to all the growers
around 
> here, last pumpkin standing wins!
> 
> 
> Don Crews in frosty Lloydminster
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:12:36 EDT
From: WSMPEACE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Weird

Novice grower in Ky. found note about lack of male flowers interesting. 
Thanks for the pollinating lesson Toby! I have 3 plants growing, all
approx. 12 ft 
vines. My plants seem to have a lack of female flowers. The few that I
have 
seen, with pea size fruit under the very small unopened flower have
withered up. 
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:46:08 -0500
From: "Rich Canter" <chaselounge@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Weird

Toby,
Next time you see "David" and "England" can you send a copy of your
lesson to "Rich" in "Texas"? I thoroughly enjoyed the info. I didnt
know you could save the flowers until you needed them.

Thanks for the mistake. Keep 'em coming.
Rich
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:25:36 -0700
From: "Toby" <mr-sprout@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Weird

Wsmpeace,

How old are your vines? It could be that the vines aren't old enough to
keep a female yet, although 12 feet seems like its good enough.  I have
read somewhere that nitrogen rich soil encourages male flowers and
discourages females.  For this reason many folks stop feeding nitrogen
to their plants about two weeks before the target pollination week, the
first 7 days of July for most.  From then on they want to feed the
fruit, not the leaves, so nitrogen feedings are properly diminished.

In my case, I just got my plants in the ground last week.  I just sold
my house, so the garden went with it.  I have 1-2 foot vines that have
not vined yet... they are growing straight out of the ground like trees.
I'll be pollinating my fruit late and harvesting late this year.  I'm
giving them plenty of nitrogen, but they still seem to be in transplant
shock.

Anybody else have an idea what might be going on with Wsmpeace's
females?  (females often confuse me.  :-D)

Toby

mr-sprout@sbcglobal.net


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From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of WSMPEACE@aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:13 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Weird

Novice grower in Ky. found note about lack of male flowers interesting. 
Thanks for the pollinating lesson Toby! I have 3 plants growing, all
approx. 12 ft 
vines. My plants seem to have a lack of female flowers. The few that I
have 
seen, with pea size fruit under the very small unopened flower have
withered up. 
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:35:26 -0700
From: "Toby" <mr-sprout@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Weird

You know Rich, I would expect them to have a refrigerator lifespan
something comparable to lettuce.  I haven't personally been in a
situation where I needed to save males yet, so you could say I have a
lot of book knowledge on the topic, but little first hand.  I believe
the method is useful to a point, but how long can flowers last in the
fridge?

I have read that some people freeze them so they last longer, but I
don't know anything about the freeze/thaw technique, yet.

Toby

mr-sprout@sbcglobal.net


- - -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Rich Canter
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:46 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Weird

Toby,
Next time you see "David" and "England" can you send a copy of your
lesson to "Rich" in "Texas"? I thoroughly enjoyed the info. I didnt
know you could save the flowers until you needed them.

Thanks for the mistake. Keep 'em coming.
Rich
End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #8
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:39:51 -0400
From: Glenn Peters <gpeters@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Hello from a newbie

Michael: the pumpkins will only cross pollinate with the Atlantic giants
if 
they are in the same species of Cucurbita Maxima most regular field type

pumpkins are Cucurbita Pepo and there-fore will not cross pollinate, 
however cross pollinated pumpkin will not show any signs of cross 
pollination this season as the genes will be carried in the seeds and
show 
up next year.
  what other types of pumpkins are you growing?

Glenn

At 09:22 AM 6/19/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Greetings from a newbie to this pumpkin game in Southern Indiana,
>
>Last year I was given a package of the Atlantic Seeds and I planted 
>them not knowing anything about them.  I did nothing to it, they just 
>grew and I got two pumpkins over 50 lbs (had 3-5 vines in one hill). 
>Anyway I am now hooked....and although I won't be going for any record 
>breakers this year, I am hoping to go 200+ lb.
>
>I have 3 vines growing now....all about 6 ft long (seeds from Howard 
>Dill's seed company in Nova Scotia - from a 500-700 lbs pumpkin, no 
>lineage that I am aware of).  I have caught the bug!  I really am 
>enjoying this.
>
>Ok, so for the question.  Along with my three hills of Giant pumpkins, 
>I am growing about 90 hills of other pumpkins (for selling and giving 
>away).  I need to keep these other pumpkins from pollinating my Giant 
>pumpkins (right?).  How do I know when to "tie the female flowers up 
>(or know when they are about to open).  I also read that you can place 
>a paper bag over the flower....does this work as well?
>
>Thanks,
>Michael
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