Report giant in NZ
I heard today of a pumpkin that measures 7 foot six from the vine end to the
blossom end, measured is a straight line - not OTT or around a hemisphere.
Looks like it will be a NZ record if it is true - I may hunt it out next
weekend.
John S
www.windwand.co.nz
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Sent: Sunday, 25 March 2001 16:11
To: pumpkins-digest@mallorn.com
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #1659
pumpkins DIGEST Sunday, March 25 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1659
In this issue:
Re: PGPGA Raffle
1007, 1025, 1048 & 1079 seed
Lost Trails
Re: PGPGA Raffle
Re: Hard Pan
Re: yellowing of leaves between veins
Re: Hard Pan
Vine training
Re: Lost Trails
Re: PGPGA Raffle
Re: Hard Pan
Back Again
Re: PGPGA Raffle
Re: yellowing of leaves between veins
Re: Round Robin Seed Box
Re: Lost Trails
Re: Round Robin Seed Box
Re: PGPGA Raffle
plant size
Re: yellowing of leaves between veins
Re: plant size
Its the pits
Re: Hard Pan
Re: Lost Trails
Re: PGPGA Raffle
Re: 13 sleeps to go in NZ
Re: Lost Trails
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:55:55 +0100
From: "BONNETT" <info@gardeningexpress.co.uk>
Subject: Re: PGPGA Raffle
i heard from some one that the biggest pumpkin grown last year only had 30
seeds in it. Surely this can't be true? The biggest would be the stelts
1140 right. I guess the guy got it wrong somewhere along the way. You
don't get a big pumkin like that with no seed inside.
Chris
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 06:38:01 EST
From: LGOURD@aol.com
Subject: 1007, 1025, 1048 & 1079 seed
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For those of you that have not gotten your 1048 Cox and 1007 K Borwn seeds,
it's time. These were both beautiful specimens and matured on into
November.
Seeds are perfect and nice. Also Marv Mitchell's 1079 and Bill Bobier's
1025 are available online at:
www.pandpseed.com
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not gotten your 1048 Cox and 1007 K Borwn seeds,
<BR>it's time. These were both beautiful specimens and matured on into
November.
<BR> Seeds are perfect and nice. Also Marv Mitchell's 1079 and
Bill Bobier's
<BR>1025 are available online at:
<BR>
<BR>www.pandpseed.com</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 07:48:52 -0500
From: "The Eatons" <eatrich@magma.ca>
Subject: Lost Trails
This question about the history of our AGs is grasping at ancient straws but
I want to ask it anyway,just in case.
Does anyone know,or even have any small clue to,the ancestory of the
following past important AGs??
671 Gancarz 86
500 Gancarz 87
530 Gancarz 89
609 Laemmle 89
730.5 Barber 91
606 Rhodenizer 91(SQ)
102 Wentzell 92
612.4 Orr 92
Any info at all would be appreciated since at present,as far as I can
determine,many trails end with the above AGs.--Al Eaton
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:16:09 -0000
From: "A. Dopp" <adopp@ptd.net>
Subject: Re: PGPGA Raffle
Yep Chris it can happen, sometimes the pumpkins will have no seeds or a very
limited number. I don't know how many the 1140 had but I know of several big
ones with a handfull or even no seeds at all. I' don't know the reason why
but do know it can happen.
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Amy
From: BONNETT <info@gardeningexpress.co.uk>
To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: PGPGA Raffle
> i heard from some one that the biggest pumpkin grown last year only had 30
> seeds in it. Surely this can't be true? The biggest would be the stelts
> 1140 right. I guess the guy got it wrong somewhere along the way. You
> don't get a big pumkin like that with no seed inside.
>
> Chris
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:31:15 EST
From: BChris1335@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hard Pan
Thanks for the information.
My garden area was indeed in farm land until about three years ago. I
found the hard pan in other areas of the yard when I was planting trees
then,
so I suspect the plow is the culprit rather than chemicals. The ripper plow
sounds like a good idea and probably less destructive then the backhoe. I
know I need to build the soil up with manure, leaves, and what not but that
is something that will take years and hundreds of yards of material.
Thanks
Brian
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:37:36 EST
From: BChris1335@aol.com
Subject: Re: yellowing of leaves between veins
Matt,
Sorry, but I have no idea what the problem is. I had something that
looked very similar to this on some of my plants last year. It would start
as
small spots like these and would progress to involve most of the leaf. Most
of leaves on the plant seemed to be affected. The plant seemed to have
stunted growth but it did grow a 325 LB pumpkin. I'll be watching for other
replies to your yellowing.
Good Luck
Brian
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:41:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Sundstrom@webtv.net (Debra Rieman)
Subject: Re: Hard Pan
wait till you get the bill for haveing a ripper come in you just might
have to refinance your house deb
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:15:43 -0800
From: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@netdex.com>
Subject: Vine training
Thanks to everyone who replied. I asked about horseshoes because I
already have them and wouldn't have to purchase any more expensive stuff
than I must. The horses were removed before the shoes came into my
possession, and I would send George Brooks a bubblepack for some of that
venison if I could first get some snow to keep it from melting along the
way. Back to the patch. Kathie
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 12:21:52 EST
From: GBPUMPKIN@aol.com
Subject: Re: Lost Trails
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In a message dated 3/25/01 7:48:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
eatrich@magma.ca
writes:
> Subj:Lost Trails
> Date:3/25/01 7:48:01 AM Eastern Standard Time
> From: eatrich@magma.ca (The Eatons)
> Sender: owner-pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Reply-to: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com ('The Group')
>
>
>
>
> This question about the history of our AGs is grasping at ancient straws
but
> I want to ask it anyway,just in case.
>
> Does anyone know,or even have any small clue to,the ancestory of the
> following past important AGs??
>
> 671 Gancarz 86
>
> 500 Gancarz 87
>
> 530 Gancarz 89
>
> 609 Laemmle 89
>
> 730.5 Barber 91
>
> 606 Rhodenizer 91(SQ)
>
> 102 Wentzell 92
>
> 612.4 Orr 92
>
> Any info at all would be appreciated since at present,as far as I can
> determine,many trails end with the above AGs.--Al Eaton
>
I don't have any info but I do have 730.5 Barber 91 seeds. Did they produce
anything good?
George Brooks
North Tewksbury, MA USA
Approximately 25 miles Northwest of Boston
in the Merrimack River Valley
Zone 5N
Personal Bests
617.6 1991
641 1993
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT SIZE=2>In a
message dated 3/25/01 7:48:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, eatrich@magma.ca
<BR>writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subj:<B>Lost
Trails</B>
<BR>Date:3/25/01 7:48:01 AM Eastern Standard Time
<BR><I>From: eatrich@magma.ca (The Eatons)
<BR>Sender: owner-pumpkins@mallorn.com
<BR>Reply-to: pumpkins@mallorn.com
<BR>To: pumpkins@mallorn.com ('The Group')
<BR></I>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>This question about the history of our AGs is grasping at ancient straws
but
<BR>I want to ask it anyway,just in case.
<BR>
<BR>Does anyone know,or even have any small clue to,the ancestory of the
<BR>following past important AGs??
<BR>
<BR>671 Gancarz 86
<BR>
<BR>500 Gancarz 87
<BR>
<BR>530 Gancarz 89
<BR>
<BR>609 Laemmle 89
<BR>
<BR>730.5 Barber 91
<BR>
<BR>606 Rhodenizer 91(SQ)
<BR>
<BR>102 Wentzell 92
<BR>
<BR>612.4 Orr 92
<BR>
<BR>Any info at all would be appreciated since at present,as far as I can
<BR>determine,many trails end with the above AGs.--Al Eaton
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>I don't have any info but I do have 730.5 Barber 91 seeds. Did
they produce
<BR>anything good?
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>George Brooks
<BR>North Tewksbury, MA USA
<BR>Approximately 25 miles Northwest of Boston
<BR>in the Merrimack River Valley
<BR>Zone 5N
<BR>Personal Bests
<BR>617.6 1991
<BR>641 1993</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:59:13 +0100
From: "BONNETT" <info@gardeningexpress.co.uk>
Subject: Re: PGPGA Raffle
Well you get all female cucumbers but they must have been pollinated for
fruit to set.
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From: A. Dopp <adopp@ptd.net>
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Date: 25 March 2001 15:23
Subject: Re: PGPGA Raffle
>Yep Chris it can happen, sometimes the pumpkins will have no seeds or a
very
>limited number. I don't know how many the 1140 had but I know of several
big
>ones with a handfull or even no seeds at all. I' don't know the reason why
>but do know it can happen.
>----- Original Message -----
>Amy
>From: BONNETT <info@gardeningexpress.co.uk>
>To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 10:55 AM
>Subject: Re: PGPGA Raffle
>
>
>> i heard from some one that the biggest pumpkin grown last year only had
30
>> seeds in it. Surely this can't be true? The biggest would be the stelts
>> 1140 right. I guess the guy got it wrong somewhere along the way. You
>> don't get a big pumkin like that with no seed inside.
>>
>> Chris
>>
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:04:14 +0100
From: "BONNETT" <info@gardeningexpress.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Hard Pan
the technical term is subsoiling and it does wonders for the soil, but going
along at 3mph in a massive field can get pretty annoting after a while.
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Date: 25 March 2001 16:46
Subject: Re: Hard Pan
> Thanks for the information.
> My garden area was indeed in farm land until about three years ago. I
>found the hard pan in other areas of the yard when I was planting trees
then,
>so I suspect the plow is the culprit rather than chemicals. The ripper plow
>sounds like a good idea and probably less destructive then the backhoe. I
>know I need to build the soil up with manure, leaves, and what not but that
>is something that will take years and hundreds of yards of material.
>Thanks
>Brian
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:49:02 -0800
From: "Gary C. Lewis" <gclewis@usachoice.net>
Subject: Back Again
Hello Pumpkin Folk,
I am back on the list after having to change ISP's. Earthlink bought
out the company we were using. Didn't like some of their policies so we
had to hunt donw another company here. We are locked up here in Duke
Center. We have a small phone company between us and the outside world,
that prevents us from using some of the major ISP companies. Long story.
Just wanted to get back in here and say to those that offered us seed.
We will get to you soon with our envelopes.
The book-mobile didn't have the books that some suggested we read. We
did get a copy of one of "Don Langevin's" books. "How to grow World
Class Giant Pumpkins". We found the picture of the pumpkin filled with
water, for added weight, rather comical, but did wonder about what
person would go to such ends to win a weigh off.
We are still having snow here pretty much daily it doesn't amount to
much. Makes us wonder if spring is ever going to show up. This seems
like an very long winter.
The "Red Winged Black Birds" have been around for some weeks now,
Robins showed up a few days later. The Red Wing Balck birds are usually
a good sign. They are interesting to watch as the males make claim to
the best nesting areas. Battles go on for days it eventually calms down.
Then! The girls arrive a few weeks later and it starts all over again.
The days are staying light longer and the temps are gradually going
up. We have seen 40's and a few 50's but night temps still drop into the
teens and twenties. This will be a "normal" year for this part of Pa. We
won't be able to get anything into the ground until mid May. We should
have more than enough time for good gardens and fields.
I hope to meet some of the local growers this year. Andy Wolf lives
in near-by New York and there are other growers here in Pa. that are not
to far away. Would like to meet some of them also.
That's all from Duke Center for now.
Gary...
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:33:34 -0800
From: Larry Checkon <centrecomm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: PGPGA Raffle
This sounds like 1999 when our 1190 produced only 34 mature seeds and
the 1131 had no mature seeds. Strange things do happen sometimes.
Larry
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:18:48 EST
From: COMPUTRESE@aol.com
Subject: Re: yellowing of leaves between veins
Matt:
This type of yellowing is genetic in origin and nothing to worry about. I
have a plant whose first leaves were like this. It's a pigment issue and the
tendency runs in the AG variety, showing itself in the plant's infancy.
Only one of my plants had this so far this season. As the plant develops,
the
subsequent leaves are normal. Don't worry about it.
Barb
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:19:52 -0800
From: "Nance L Drill" <ndrill@3dtech.net>
Subject: Re: Round Robin Seed Box
Alright, what is all this talk of a SEED BOX? I some how missed out on
getting in on this. I live on the West Coast, is it still possible to get
join in?
Thanks,
Nance Drill
Wilsonville, OR
First time grower
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To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:14 AM
Subject: Round Robin Seed Box
> LIpumpkin@aol.com wrote:
> I don't have to drive it to the next guy in Caliphornia do i?........G
>
> Glenn, come on out, it's not like the RR box has to go to England,
> Belgium and Italy. If you can just get over the Rockies, there's
> sunshine all the way to the coast. Don't move here, though, all this
> sunshine tends to turn a perfectly good fruit ORANGE. K
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:27:51 -0800
From: "Gary C. Lewis" <gclewis@usachoice.net>
Subject: Re: Lost Trails
In the book I have here by Don Langevin, he list a number of people
that have a history with pumpkins. However most of the credit seems to
belong to Howard Dill and his work with seeds from pumpkins his family
had for years and seed from a record pumpkin by another Canadain grower
Willian Warnock.
Warnock grew a 403lb pumpkin in 1903, a record that held for 75
years. Dill broke that record in 1979 with a 438.5 pumpkin. He, Dill, is
the holder of the patent of the Alantic Giant Pumpkins.
There is more detail in the Langevin book; " How to grow World Class
Giant Pumpkins.
Hope that helps some.
The above info, dates and weights, was taken from Don Lanngevin's
book with out permission of the author
Gary
Duke Center,
Pa.
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:57:27 EST
From: COMPUTRESE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Round Robin Seed Box
In a message dated 3/25/01 2:29:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ndrill@3dtech.net writes:
<<
Alright, what is all this talk of a SEED BOX? I some how missed out on
getting in on this. I live on the West Coast, is it still possible to get
join in?
>>
Nance:
Too late for the Round Robin exchange this year, but there are growers on
this list who will help you get started with some good seeds if you need
them.
Watch the list during the month of November, when Leslie Vogt posts the
information on how to participate. You can look forward to it for next
season
if you grow a pumpkin this year and harvest your seeds to offer in the
exchange.
Barb
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:17:24 +0100
From: "BONNETT" <info@gardeningexpress.co.uk>
Subject: Re: PGPGA Raffle
This is strange, i wonder if it is a fluke or if 1000+lber's will have less
seeds. That seems illogical though. Guess it comes down to that nature
nurture argument again. Will be growing Pukos seed this year. Good luck
with yours.
Chris
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To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Date: 25 March 2001 20:17
Subject: Re: PGPGA Raffle
>This sounds like 1999 when our 1190 produced only 34 mature seeds and
>the 1131 had no mature seeds. Strange things do happen sometimes.
>
>Larry
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:38:00 -0700
From: "robert fifield" <rfmailbag@uswest.net>
Subject: plant size
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i have got a question, how big should my plants be after 6 weeks. thanks =
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:38:54 -0800
From: Larry Checkon <centrecomm@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: yellowing of leaves between veins
I agree with Barb, the leaf appears to be healthy. Just a genetic thing.
Larry
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:43:24 -0500
From: "Paul Huffer" <phuffer@insight.rr.com>
Subject: Re: plant size
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only been growing 2 years ,but usually have a 4-6 foot main vine by that =
time. and males getting ready to bloom. Paul
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Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 3:38 PM
Subject: plant size
i have got a question, how big should my plants be after 6 weeks. =
thanks in advance.
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:24:39 -0800
From: Vickie Brock <vbrock@mcn.org>
Subject: Its the pits
I was wondering whats the general consensus was on pits. I know some
growers feel that a nutrient pit full of good stuff might tend to keep the
roots from spreading out. Last year I tried the no pit method and there
didn't appear to be a big difference although my weights weren't as high
off by 50 lbs or so..........yes its the pits ! but that season is gone
now. what to do this season. I have also noticed some top growers that
had abandon the pit only to return......................what I am looking
for are some monsters that have been grown without the pit
practice............just tilling 10 inches or so...............or a general
feeling towards the pits................................MB
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:44:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Ebby <ebby222@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hard Pan
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Have you tried using a Pulaski? It's a great tool to have. It can go through
some very hard soil.
Michael
BChris1335@aol.com wrote:
I tried to dig my 3x3x3 hole to place compost in for my planting site
yesterday and I found a layer of hard pan about 10 inches below the soil
surface. This stuff is as hard as rock. I can't break it up with a shovel or
a large digging fork. It seems to be under most of my garden area. I've fond
it in other areas of the yard when I've planted trees and shrubs. I can
eventually get a hole big enough to plant a tree but that is not 3000 square
feet for AG's. I've thought about renting a backhoe and digging the whole
thing down 2 feet, a post hole digger would probably have a similar effect.
Does any one have any suggestions? Do I really need to do anything?
(although
I suspect this may have been a limiting factor in the past).
Brian Christensen
Rexburg, Idaho
personal best 487lbs, 2000
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<P>Have you tried using a Pulaski? It's a great tool to have. It can go
through some very hard soil.</P>
<P>Michael<BR><BR></P>
<P> <B><I>BChris1335@aol.com</I></B> wrote: <BR><BR>
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PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I tried to dig my 3x3x3 hole to place compost in for my
planting site <BR>yesterday and I found a layer of hard pan about 10 inches
below the soil <BR>surface. This stuff is as hard as rock. I can't break it
up with a shovel or <BR>a large digging fork. It seems to be under most of
my garden area. I've fond <BR>it in other areas of the yard when I've
planted trees and shrubs. I can <BR>eventually get a hole big enough to
plant a tree but that is not 3000 square <BR>feet for AG's. I've thought
about renting a backhoe and digging the whole <BR>thing down 2 feet, a post
hole digger would probably have a similar effect. <BR>Does any one have any
suggestions? Do I really need to do anything? (although <BR>I suspect this
may have been a limiting factor in the past).<BR><BR>Brian
Christensen<BR>Rexburg, Idaho<BR>personal best 487lbs,
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:57:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Alun Jones <Alun_Jones@excite.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Lost Trails
Yo Al,
I have WPC newsletters going back to 1988 and at that time nobody
listed what seed their pumpkins had been grown from. My quess is that they
have bought seed from Howard or Ray on the basis it was from a fruit of a
certain weight i.e. over 400lb or over 500lb with no specific parentage
mentioned. They may have used seed from one of their own grown from a Howard
or Ray seed and being that far back in time they have not recorded
information as we all do today.
ALUN J ENGLAND
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:03:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Alun Jones <Alun_Jones@excite.co.uk>
Subject: Re: PGPGA Raffle
Yo Chris,
I dont care how many seeds are inside as long as I grow a 1140lber.
ALUN
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 16:09:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Alun Jones <Alun_Jones@excite.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 13 sleeps to go in NZ
Yo John,
Good to hear that somebody has something on the vine, in fact that
somebody has a vine.We're all waiting to plant so its keeping us going. Good
luck with your fruit, keep us informed.
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:16:28 -0500
From: "Rock Rivard" <jenaipas@netrover.com>
Subject: Re: Lost Trails
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Hi,
The AGGC database has the following info=20
on the 730.5 Barber 1991 :
a.. offspring : 411 Keyser 1996 (730.5 x 675.4 Waterman 1990)
b.. 730.5 used as pollinator : 519.5 MacDonald 1992 (717.5 MacDonald =
1991 x 730.5)
The 102 Wentzell 1992 originated from store bought AG seeds (Vesey Seeds =
Ltd.)
Hope this helps,
Till next time....
=20
Rock=20
=20
e-mail : jenaipas@netrover.com
Potirothon (Gentilly, QC) : =
http://potirothon.mrcbecancour.qc.ca/index.htm
OSLGA : http://www.magma.ca/~oslgpmpk/
AGGC : http://aggc.1wh.com/aggc.asp
Giant Pumpkin Web Ring : http://www.olywa.net/s&mcramer/webring.html
ICQ # : 47921098
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From: GBPUMPKIN@aol.com=20
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com=20
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Lost Trails
In a message dated 3/25/01 7:48:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, =
eatrich@magma.ca=20
writes:=20
Subj:Lost Trails=20
Date:3/25/01 7:48:01 AM Eastern Standard Time=20
From: eatrich@magma.ca (The Eatons)=20
Sender: owner-pumpkins@mallorn.com=20
Reply-to: pumpkins@mallorn.com=20
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com ('The Group')=20
This question about the history of our AGs is grasping at ancient =
straws but=20
I want to ask it anyway,just in case.=20
Does anyone know,or even have any small clue to,the ancestory of the=20
following past important AGs??=20
671 Gancarz 86=20
500 Gancarz 87=20
530 Gancarz 89=20
609 Laemmle 89=20
730.5 Barber 91=20
606 Rhodenizer 91(SQ)=20
102 Wentzell 92=20
612.4 Orr 92=20
Any info at all would be appreciated since at present,as far as I can=20
determine,many trails end with the above AGs.--Al Eaton=20
I don't have any info but I do have 730.5 Barber 91 seeds. Did they =
produce=20
anything good?=20
George Brooks=20
North Tewksbury, MA USA=20
Approximately 25 miles Northwest of Boston=20
in the Merrimack River Valley=20
Zone 5N=20
Personal Bests=20
617.6 1991=20
641 1993=20
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<DIV>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The AGGC database has the following info </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>on the 730.5 Barber 1991 :</DIV>
<UL>
<LI> offspring : 411 Keyser 1996 (730.5 x 675.4 Waterman =
1990)</LI>
<LI>730.5 used as pollinator : 519.5 MacDonald 1992 (717.5 MacDonald =
1991 x=20
730.5)</LI></UL>
<DIV>The 102 Wentzell 1992 originated from store bought AG seeds (Vesey =
Seeds=20
Ltd.)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hope this helps,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Till next time....<BR> <BR>Rock <BR> <BR>e-mail : <A=20
href=3D"j*@netrover.com">jenaipas@netrover.com</A><BR>Potiro=
thon=20
(Gentilly, QC) : <A=20
href=3D"http://potirothon.mrcbecancour.qc.ca/index.htm">http://potirothon=
.mrcbecancour.qc.ca/index.htm</A><BR>OSLGA=20
: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.magma.ca/~oslgpmpk/">http://www.magma.ca/~oslgpmpk/</A=
><BR>AGGC=20
: <A=20
href=3D"http://aggc.1wh.com/aggc.asp">http://aggc.1wh.com/aggc.asp</A><BR=
>Giant=20
Pumpkin Web Ring : <A=20
href=3D"http://www.olywa.net/s&mcramer/webring.html">http://www.olywa=
.net/s&mcramer/webring.html</A><BR>ICQ=20
# : 47921098</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3DGBPUMPKIN@aol.com =
href=3D"G*@aol.com">GBPUMPKIN@aol.com</A>=20
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dpumpkins@mallorn.com=20
href=3D"pumpkins@mallorn.com">pumpkins@mallorn.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 25, 2001 12:21 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Lost Trails</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>In a message =
dated=20
3/25/01 7:48:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, <A=20
href=3D"e*@magma.ca">eatrich@magma.ca</A> <BR>writes: =
<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
TYPE=3D"CITE">Subj:<B>Lost Trails</B> <BR>Date:3/25/01 7:48:01 AM =
Eastern=20
Standard Time <BR><I>From: <A=20
href=3D"e*@magma.ca">eatrich@magma.ca</A> (The Eatons) =
<BR>Sender:=20
<A=20
=
href=3D"owner-pumpkins@mallorn.com">owner-pumpkins@mallorn.com</A>=
=20
<BR>Reply-to: <A=20
href=3D"pumpkins@mallorn.com">pumpkins@mallorn.com</A> <BR>To:=20
<A=20
href=3D"pumpkins@mallorn.com">pumpkins@mallorn.com</A> ('The =
Group')=20
<BR></I><BR><BR><BR><BR>This question about the history of our AGs is =
grasping=20
at ancient straws but <BR>I want to ask it anyway,just in case. =
<BR><BR>Does=20
anyone know,or even have any small clue to,the ancestory of the =
<BR>following=20
past important AGs?? <BR><BR>671 Gancarz 86 <BR><BR>500 Gancarz 87 =
<BR><BR>530=20
Gancarz 89 <BR><BR>609 Laemmle 89 <BR><BR>730.5 Barber 91 <BR><BR>606=20
Rhodenizer 91(SQ) <BR><BR>102 Wentzell 92 <BR><BR>612.4 Orr 92 =
<BR><BR>Any=20
info at all would be appreciated since at present,as far as I can=20
<BR>determine,many trails end with the above AGs.--Al Eaton=20
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I don't have any info but I do have 730.5 =
Barber 91=20
seeds. Did they produce <BR>anything good? <BR><BR><BR>George =
Brooks=20
<BR>North Tewksbury, MA USA <BR>Approximately 25 miles Northwest of =
Boston=20
<BR>in the Merrimack River Valley <BR>Zone 5N <BR>Personal Bests =
<BR>617.6 1991=20
<BR>641 1993</FONT> </FONT></BODY></HTML>
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