Re: Can't we all just get along?
To Bill v and Brian H and Steve,
I will repeat my previous message in part:
negative comments to another lister or bad mouthing should be privately, not
to everyone on the list. If you don't want to assist others, keep it to
yourself and/or delete.
Milkweed (asclepia) is a native plant that plays host to the Monarch
butterfly. It comes in a variety of colors, not just orange. Check out the
web site www.butterflyfarm.com to learn more about these beautiful creatures
and the plants they need to live.
Not wanting to use chemicals in your garden is, in my humble opinion, a good
thing, I also try not to use them.
Now, Steve, I realize most people generalize, but I disagree with your
opinion that "most people that work at gardening centers are stupid...". I
work at a gardening center where we have 3 full time workers that are very
knowledgeable. We know what asclepias is and we know the difference between
a Geranium (geranium)and a Geranium (pelargonium). HOWEVER, the part-time,
seasonal help that are hired know next to nothing about plants in general,
and the majority of those people have no desire to learn more about it, they
just want a summer job. I have never met a truly stupid person in the work
field. Webster defines stupid as "lacking ordinary activity of mind".
There are those who have no ambition or initiative, however, and they
usually stay only a week or days, then move on. I'll get down from my
soapbox now and quit cluttering the list with off-topic info. Thank you!
Lisa Shumaker
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hopkins <hopbri@hotmail.com>
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Date: Saturday, May 20, 2000 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Cross-pollination, pumpkins & peppers
>Those people at the garden center must really look forward to your visits:)
>If I understand correctly you are not only against spraying for bugs but
you
>actually cultivate noxious weeds as well? Go ahead plant a few milkweed
>around the farm and before you know it you will have half the countryside
>producing fluffy floating seeds. Just wondering - do you cultivate your
>weeds and pumpkins in separate patches or together? That could be why you
>have not broken the 300 pound barrier. Could that be why the farmer plowed
>up your pumpkins that time because you were providing the haven for noxious
>weeds and he did not want you seeding his whole farm down with them?
>
>And also - if you do not know what you are talking about do not talk about
>it. Peppers can pick up hotness from the plant beside them especially the
>peppers that are eaten whole (seeds and all).
>
>And also - when are you going to post your picture?
>
>Brian
>
>
>
>>From: "Great Pumpkin" <greatpumpkin99@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>>To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>>Subject: Re: Cross-pollination, pumpkins & peppers
>>Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:06:51 EDT
>>
>>
>>>Aside from AGs, I'm planning to plant a variety of peppers this year. A
>>>gardner at the nursery told me to plant the sweet peppers away from the
>>>hot peppers or even my bell peppers would end tasting spicy.
>>>
>>>I know that when an AG crosses with a gourd, the resulting pumpkin will
>>>be orange but that seeds from it will produce some green fruit.
>>>
>>>So, is it possible, in the pepper world that cross-pollination between
>>>different types would cause a change in the make-up of the immediate
>>>fruit?
>>>
>>>Or, is there some scientific gardening phenomenon other than cross
>>>pollination that could cause such a change to occur?
>>>
>>>Any input or discussion would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>Randy Banderob
>>>Millbrook, Ontario
>>>
>>
>>I don't know how this could be. The only crops where the current "fruit"
is
>>affected are where the actual seeds are the desired part, like in corn.
>>Since pollination would immediately affect the seeds, but not the fruit. I
>>grow all types of peppers together in the same bed, from jalapeņos to
green
>>bell peppers, and they all produce respective to their variety.
>>You would not believe the advice I get when we go to a gardening center. I
>>swear I cannot hold back sometimes. I have learned one thing, most people
>>who work at gardening centers are stupid. O.K., that is a bit harsh, but
it
>>gets on my nerves! Hardly any of them really know anything about
gardening.
>>Anytmme I ask something like "Do you have any asclepias"? I get blank
>>stares, then something like "No, those are toxic, you don't want to be
>>messing with those!", or "Uh, is that like a daisy?". Then I explain that
>>it
>>is milkweed, and then they say "Oh no, we don't have WEEDS, only flowers".
>>Then I explain "No, see it is a butterfly flower". Then they say "Oh we
>>have
>>a lot of flowers that will attract butterflies". And I explain that I am
>>looking for a specific host plant for Monarchs, not just any flower".
>>Again,
>>I get blank stares. NEVER MIND! Dang! And half the time they say they
don't
>>have something, I go look and find it myself. They just say "no" as an
easy
>>way out. In truth they don't have a clue what you are talking about but
>>don't want to admit it. It is like that everywhere. It drives me crazy. I
>>actually yell at the TV sometimes when this stupid "garden expert" comes
on
>>and tells people a bunch of boloney, too. Oh I want to call in sometime
and
>>have a good time with him! Anyway, a good idea is not to take anyone's
>>advice on anything, since everyone has their own crazy ideas, always go
get
>>a ton of books from the library and read up on stuff yourself. It really
>>does help.
>>
>>-Steve
>>
>>
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