Re: 17 1000 pounders and 52 900 pounders, but only 4 come from self-pollinated

Matt
I believe that there is far to much cross pollination happening today. I
look at all the characteristics and progeny of pumpkins and if there is a
desired trait I would like to see in my own line, I will cross for that
trait.The following year however, I would self that pumpkin to try and set
the desired traits. It may even require more than one self pollination to
see the desired results. Yes, you stand a chance of undesirable
characteristics when you self too much but the rewards outweigh the
negative. You also develop a line that you can be personally very proud of.
The 942 van Kooten has some very top genetics in it. From all indications
it is a very vigerous grower. Presently it has a 42 inch main with a
secondary main at 14 inches.Not too bad for this time of the year from
north of the 49th. Unfortunately both my 1026 Holland seed failed to
germinate and this is the cross I was looking at for selfing in a couple of
years.All is not lost however as my friend Richard Koch from Bremerton has
indicated he is doing that cross. I will be first in line to obtain seed
from that cross.

That's enough rambling for now - it's back to the patch.

Have a great season one and all.

Jake van Kooten  

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> From: matthew isom <matthew.isom@granite.k12.ut.us>
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Subject: re: 17   1000 pounders and 52   900 pounders, but only 4 come
from self-pollinated
> Date: May 29, 2001 11:10 AM
> 
> As far as I can tell, there have been 69 official weight pumpkins 
> grown that weighed at least 900 pounds, but only 4 of them come 
> from seeds that were self-pollinated (for example, the 975.6 Gervais 
> comes from the 1092 Burke, which was a self-pollinated 935 
> Lloyd). The four pumpkins are the 1036.5, 975.6, 962, and the 945. 
> Are cross-pollinated pumpkins really more potent, or is this just a 
> manifestation of the fact that the vast majority of seeds out there 
> are cross-pollinated seeds?  I do find it interesting that the 1092 
> hasn't had more success, considering that there were quite a few 
> people who grew it, but on the other hand, the 914 Weir seems to 
> have done very well (but did it really only have the 3 offspring listed 
> on the AGGC site?).  It's also noteworthy that the 962 Willemse 
> comes from a line of four self-pollinated pumpkins and that the 
> greatest (?) squash of all time was the self-pollinated 900.5 Lyons.  
> It will be interesting to see how the self-pollinated seeds do this 
> year (1092, 942 VanKooten, 900.5, 827 Holman, others?).  I must 
> admit that this year I'm not growing any self-pollinated seeds,
> but . . . am I just subscribing to the same fallacy that everybody 
> else is, or is there really something to this business of cross-
> pollinated plants being more vigorous?
> 
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