RE: pumpkin seed list
- To: "'pumpkins@lorien.mallorn.com'"
- Subject: RE: pumpkin seed list
- From: C* J* M*
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:08:33 -0800
Could I have a copy of the seed list for giants too? I am looking for
some good seeds for next year also. My E-mail address is JCanyon @
Providence. org. Mail address is:
Jan Canyon
3226 S. 137th
Tukwila, WA 98168
Thanks everyone. Jan
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From: pumpkins-owner@mallorn.com [pumpkins-owner@mallorn.com]
Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 3:34 PM
To: pumpkins-digest@mallorn.com
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #489
pumpkins DIGEST Monday, November 16 1998 Volume 01 : Number
489
In this issue:
FW: Ontario seeds needed
Re: Where can a beginner get seeds?
Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
Re: prizewinner pumpkins
Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
Re: seed
7-8-9-1,000 lb Growers
Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
reconstructing a pumpkin.
Re: Hiding flowers from insects
Re: AG THOUGHTS what else
Mountain view to be replaced by pumpkins?
Pruning vines
Re: AG THOUGHTS what else
Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
Re: AG THOUGHTS what else
Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
Dried seeds
Re: Dried seeds
Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
Re: reconstructing a pumpkin.
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 04:58:41 -0800
From: "McAlpine, Duncan G" <Duncan.McAlpine@PSS.Boeing.com>
Subject: FW: Ontario seeds needed
> ----------
> From: matthew and dana[SMTP:rodents@inconnect.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 1980 4:45 AM
> To: owner-pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Subject: Ontario seeds needed
>
> I would do some pretty drastic things to get my hands on some Ontario
> seeds, so $5 is nothing. I'm trying to break the Utah state record of
> 620#
> and I figure some of the genetics you have up there might do the
trick. I
> took 2nd in the state this year with a 428 pounder grown from a Bobier
> 779.5.
>
> I'm not real sure how you guys work the seed distribution--I guess I
just
> write like this and say "I'm interested" and you e-mail back saying,
"o.k.
> we've got seeds. Send your $5 etc."
>
>
> Thanks, Matthew Isom
> rodents@inconnect.com
> OR Matthew.Isom@granite.k12.ut.us
>
> OR 123 "M" Street
> Salt Lake City, UT 84103 USA
> OR call collect (801) 328-8148
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:41:56 EST
From: LGOURD@aol.com
Subject: Re: Where can a beginner get seeds?
Paul,
Send your postal address for a seed list of the giants
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:44:42 EST
From: SteveS012@aol.com
Subject: Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
In a message dated 98-11-16 01:09:38 EST, you write:
> Steve,
> I'm so sorry for your experience. It is good to here your moving
forward
> past
> your anger and focusing back on your pumpkin! As for putting it back
> together
> I'll give you my ideas. I'd forget commercial glues and try something
sticky
> like molasses. I'd coat all pieces with the molasses and use
toothpicks to
> hold them together. I'd also stuff the pumpkin with something water
proof
> like
> foam rubber or crumpled up plastic or a tarp to support the pieces
from the
> inside. Good luck!
>
> Alan R.
Well, as for the other responses of superglue, (I am guessing that was a
joke), obviously that only works on non porous, dry material. And as for
"forgetting about it", well you have to understand, this is my first
250+
pound pumpkin, and I spent every day, ALL summer, in the blazing heat to
the
freezing cold of these fall nights to cover and put gallons and gallons
of hot
water bottles under the covers and tents to protect from frost, EVERY
NIGHT.
You would not beleive how much work and time went into it, and cost.
After all
that, I THINK I want something to show for it, not a pile of pieces
because
some idiot thinks he has the right to destroy other property that they
worked
all summer on. It might also be the ONLY pumpkin I will ever have had
the
chance to grow, since I might not be able to next year. So it would be
SENSELESS to let it go and not at least try some sort of reconstruction
of all
that I have worked on for the last 5 months. I don't think it is far
fetched
at all.
To Alan, thanks for the idea about molasses, but do you really think
that
would work?! I mean it seems that it would just slide right apart, and
it
doesn't exactly harden enough to offer enough adhesion to hold hundreds
of
pound of pieces together (does it)? The toothpick idea sounds good, to
tack
all of the pieces together. I might have to find something stronger than
wooden toothpicks though. I don't know. I came up with a strange idea
last
night, also. If I tacked together pieces to form big sections, then
covered
the inside part with plastic, and molded fiberglass resin into each
section,
then hotglued all of the fiberglass understructure together, the pumpkin
could
be reconstructed around that, each piece attached to each other and the
understructure. Of course your idea about the tarp or foam rubber inside
might
be enough if the pieces can be tacked together and adhered enough to
stay
together.
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:50:02 EST
From: LGOURD@aol.com
Subject: Re: prizewinner pumpkins
Dan,
Send your postal address for a seed list
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:12:13 EST
From: GJGEM@aol.com
Subject: Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
Go to the hardware store and buy some 1/4" round wood. Cut it in pieces
long enough to stick in 6" on the pieces your fitting together .This
might
work for
awhile, but nothing can stop the inevitable.
George J.
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:14:56 EST
From: LGOURD@aol.com
Subject: Re: seed
Derrick,
Please send your postal address for a seed list of giants
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:02:31 EST
From: LGOURD@aol.com
Subject: 7-8-9-1,000 lb Growers
As many of you know P & P Seed Co has provided some of the world's best
"Atlantic Giant" pumpkin seeds to growers since 1984. Most all of the
giants
grown today can trace their "roots" back to P & P Seed Co. Early growth
and
development of the sport/hobby was supported greatly by the distribution
of
quality seeds to the best growers. Many of you included! Other
varieties
have been available, such as the newly developed "Collins Long Gourd"
with no
restrictions. P & P Seed Co was first to offer the "Carolina Cross"
watermelon variety to the general population. We have worked closely
with top
growers for many years to make these offers (and build the sport/hobby).
Successes in giant pumpkin growing have been unbelieveable! Of course
the
1,000 lb goal was an early concept for P & P Seed Co. Thanks for
helping us
get there!
We would like to keep the best seed available to as many growers as
possible.
If you would like to work with us on this and help further develop the
sport/hobby please give me a call @ 1.800.449.5681 (US & Canada) if I'm
not
available I will return your call, so please leave your number and the
best
time to call you back.
If you're a new grower or haven't made 700 lb yet don't worry, you'll
get
there! Send your postal address for the new seed list coming out later
this
fall.
Thank you
Ray Waterman
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:42:23 EST
From: JERRYNIGRO@aol.com
Subject: Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
Chop it up and put it in the soil and wait till next year.
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:29:00 EST
From: Jalust@aol.com
Subject: reconstructing a pumpkin.
Steve,
You're trying really hard to make this vicious and mean act go away.
Once the
pumpkin is broken up like that. . . wait a minute. I was gonna try to
get you
to understand that it was time to let go. It probably is, but what
would a
plastic surgeon do, if a terrible accident happened? Reconstruct!
The thing is, time is against you. And there is not going to be any
regenerative tissues. The pumpkin is already breaking down, more and
more
everyday. Infection is bound to set in. It doesn't look good.
Maybe you could use thin straight wire as "dowels". The sticky molasses
mixed
with an antibacterial agent might help. If the pieces are large enough,
they
might take to the dowels and hold on. If some are very small, this is
the
hardest part.
There could be so much necrotic tissue in the small pieces that saving
them
becomes impossible. You will have to find a donor pumpkin (I am
SERIOUS) and
take proportional pieces from it. use wood or very fine metal to
attach.
Do use a filler material as an armature for the pumpkin. This will give
it
strength, or the whole thing will probably collapse. Stuff it on the
heavy
side, so that if the pumpkin has a tendency to collapase, it will rest
on the
filling.
Make sure to do the reconstruction where the pumpkin is going to stay as
moving it will probably prove fatal.
Good luck, Steve!
Judy
Jalust@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:10:30 +0200
From: "Bellevue Manor" <bellevue@yebo.co.za>
Subject: Re: Hiding flowers from insects
Is it really neccesary to cover the male flowers too? Would covering the
female flower with a paper bag and tieng it with string work?
Jan
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> From: Richard J. Noffke <collinsr@execpc.com>
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Subject: Re: Hiding flowers from insects
> Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 3:30 AM
>
> All: My strategy for all pumpkins that I care about the genetic
makeup:
>
> The evening before we romantically tie the male and female blossoms
shut
> with ordinary orange surveyor's tape (doubles as a good way to find
them
> also). Then in the AM we open them and make the cross. The we use
small
> cotton drawstring bags to cover the blossom for a day or so. There
> pretty cheap and can be pulled up snug over the petiole.
>
> Rick
>
> ----------
> > From: res <res@colfax.com>
> > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > Subject: Hiding flowers from insects
> > Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:15 PM
> >
> > Bob, I cover only the female flower that I care about. I use a
developed
> > tendiril to tie it closed, same thing after pollination. I figure I
> don't
> > want the pollinaters to go away, I just don't want them in some
flowers.
> > Roger
> >
> >
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:19:34 +0200
From: "Bellevue Manor" <bellevue@yebo.co.za>
Subject: Re: AG THOUGHTS what else
Is it really neccesary for one to cover the male flowers as well? And
why?
Jan
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> From: Dan Shapiro <dgs@leland.stanford.edu>
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Subject: RE: AG THOUGHTS what else
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 2:01 AM
>
> I covered both male and female flowers the night before they looked
ready
> to open. Actually, I tied them shut with a piece of string. I found
that
> other methods let too much moisture from the misting system into the
> flowers.
>
> Dan Shapiro
>
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:03:17 +1300
From: John Sargeant <John.sargeant@STDC.govt.nz>
Subject: Mountain view to be replaced by pumpkins?
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Hi Team
Attached below is a posting from our Lucas Young who is a digital wizard
in these parts. Lucas has set up a camera in his kitchen to take and
disseminate shots of the mountain every fifteen minutes.
What has this to do with pumpkins I hear you ask? We are working out how
to do the same thing at the pumpkin festival on April11th so all you
good people can take a virtual visit to the Weigh-Off to see how your
pumpkin seeds have turned out.
Watch this space.
Hello fellow Hawera Surfers!
Hawera Online now has a webcam! That's right - a shot of Mount Taranaki,
updated every fifteen minutes during daylight hours. Eventually we hope
to have a webcam set up atop the Water Tower, but at present the video
lead only reaches as far as the kitchen window :)
Hawera Online
http://www.hawera.net.nz/ <http://www.hawera.net.nz/>
Mount Taranaki Webcam
http://www.hawera.net.nz/mountcam.html
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Regards
Lucas Young
List Administrator
www.hawera.net.nz
Have a 'Parky' day.
John S.
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:46:47 +0200
From: "Bellevue Manor" <bellevue@yebo.co.za>
Subject: Pruning vines
I know that this topic has been discussed allot earlier, but I have
still
some questions to ask.
Q1
I have heard that you should always cover the pruned end of the vine
with
soil after it has been pruned. Is it necessary to cover the part of the
tertiary vine after pruning? Or should one not cover it when pruned
while
still very small?
Q2
Should one ever prune the main vine, and what is the recommended length
to
start pruning it?
Jan Jooste
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:52:05 -0700
From: Dan Shapiro <dgs@leland.stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: AG THOUGHTS what else
Jan,
I covered the males for two reasons: I didn't want them denuded by bees,
and wet pollen doesn't take very well.
Some people solve these problems by competing with the bees - they get
up
at 0-dark-hundred hours, hand pollenate by pre-dawn light, and then
launch
mightily into their days.
I sleep in longer, untie my protected male and female flowers, and then
sieze the middle of the afternoon.
Dan Shapiro
>Is it really neccesary for one to cover the male flowers as well? And
why?
>
>> Actually, I tied them shut with a piece of string. I found that
>> other methods let too much moisture from the misting system into the
>> flowers.
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:19:34 -0500
From: "Rock Rivard" <rockriv@atou.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
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Just a thought, how about using the fabric that they make casts out of,
it
hardens and dries quickly.
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Date : 16 novembre, 1998 08:55
Objet : Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
In a message dated 98-11-16 01:09:38 EST, you write:
> Steve,
> I'm so sorry for your experience. It is good to here your moving
forward
> past
> your anger and focusing back on your pumpkin! As for putting it
back
> together
> I'll give you my ideas. I'd forget commercial glues and try
something
sticky
> like molasses. I'd coat all pieces with the molasses and use
toothpicks to
> hold them together. I'd also stuff the pumpkin with something
water
proof
> like
> foam rubber or crumpled up plastic or a tarp to support the
pieces
from the
> inside. Good luck!
>
> Alan R.
Well, as for the other responses of superglue, (I am guessing that
was
a
joke), obviously that only works on non porous, dry material. And as
for
"forgetting about it", well you have to understand, this is my first
250+
pound pumpkin, and I spent every day, ALL summer, in the blazing
heat
to the
freezing cold of these fall nights to cover and put gallons and
gallons of hot
water bottles under the covers and tents to protect from frost,
EVERY
NIGHT.
You would not beleive how much work and time went into it, and cost.
After all
that, I THINK I want something to show for it, not a pile of pieces
because
some idiot thinks he has the right to destroy other property that
they
worked
all summer on. It might also be the ONLY pumpkin I will ever have
had
the
chance to grow, since I might not be able to next year. So it would
be
SENSELESS to let it go and not at least try some sort of
reconstruction of all
that I have worked on for the last 5 months. I don't think it is far
fetched
at all.
To Alan, thanks for the idea about molasses, but do you really think
that
would work?! I mean it seems that it would just slide right apart,
and
it
doesn't exactly harden enough to offer enough adhesion to hold
hundreds of
pound of pieces together (does it)? The toothpick idea sounds good,
to
tack
all of the pieces together. I might have to find something stronger
than
wooden toothpicks though. I don't know. I came up with a strange
idea
last
night, also. If I tacked together pieces to form big sections, then
covered
the inside part with plastic, and molded fiberglass resin into each
section,
then hotglued all of the fiberglass understructure together, the
pumpkin could
be reconstructed around that, each piece attached to each other and
the
understructure. Of course your idea about the tarp or foam rubber
inside might
be enough if the pieces can be tacked together and adhered enough to
stay
together.
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:37:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Shaun Case <polaris@WOLFENET.com>
Subject: Re: AG THOUGHTS what else
Contained in Bellevue Manor's latest missive was:
> Is it really neccesary for one to cover the male flowers as well? And
why?
Yes. Bees visit the male flowers to collect pollen. As
someone else mentioned, their visits will reduce the amount
of pollen available. More importantly, bees visit many
flowers from many sources and the pollen in the pollen
baskets on their legs and in the hair on their bodies will
"contaminate" the pollen in the flower with pollen from
unknown sources as it brushes off.
Although individual honey bees exhibit "flower fidelity"
where they visit many flowers of the same type, when they
drop off their load of pollen in the hive they come in
contact with pollen from many other sources when they
transfer their load to the house bees which then pack it
into the comb. (This in-hive pollen transfer has been
shown to be of primary importance in almond crops where a
"pollinator" variety is required since almonds aren't
self-fertile)). This in-hive mixing can bring foreign
pollen into your unsuspecting male flowers from as far as
four miles away and can cause your next generation of
pumpkins to be crosses with any c. maxima (e.g. Cinderalla)
growing with in a radius of several miles.
As in human affairs, an ounce of prevention is worth several
pounds of trouble. :-)
Shaun
Beekeeper and AG grower in Spokane, WA
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:48:38 -0500
From: "Ernest Quintiliani" <cohiba@tiac.net>
Subject: Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
Steve,
I feel for you. I hate to get psychological on you, but it seems as
if
you really need closure. I know the guy whose land you grew it on is a
friend of your dad's, but it seems as if the fault is on the head of the
guy
who runs the plow. I t probably would be no skin off your dad's back if
you
calmly sat down and wrote him a letter explaining all the work you put
into
the AG and requesting a reasonable (No more than what you put in) sum of
restitution. If this fellow isn't civil enough to remit, then perhaps
small
claims court would be your best bet. At least you couldn't say that you
didn't try. Hope you feel better,
Ernest
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To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 8:01 PM
Subject: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
>Can anyone tell me some ideas on getting a pumpkin back together from
chunks?
>Would tanglefoot work to "glue" the pieces together?
>I figured I can clean the pieces, put sulfer on them, and somehow stick
them
>back together, maybe using wires, or wire mesh underneath as a support,
but
>was wondering how strong tanglefoot would be itself?
>I really need some ideas.
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Date: 16 Nov 98 14:08:59 Pacific Standard Time
From: Judy <mikes@wizzards.net>
Subject: Dried seeds
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Hello, I hope I don't ask a stupid question. I was wondering what do
seeds look like when they are dried. My seeds have dried for about 3
weeks and are much lighter in color and have a clear film that peels off
the seeds. Does this mean they are done?
Judy
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do seeds look like when they <BR>are
dried. My seeds have dried for 
;about 3 weeks and are much lighter i
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:35:22 EST
From: Taskemdoc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dried seeds
U got it....they are done....................
keep with some ventilation - in a dry - cool place until next year and
you're
all set
taskemdoc....growin'em in Cleveland
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:20:27 EST
From: SteveS012@aol.com
Subject: Re: I need ideas for sticking pumpkin back together!
In a message dated 98-11-16 11:02:05 EST, you write:
> Chop it up and put it in the soil and wait till next year.
Uh....I think you are missing the point....but anyway, thanks for the
"advice".
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:30:45 EST
From: SteveS012@aol.com
Subject: Re: reconstructing a pumpkin.
In a message dated 98-11-16 11:46:13 EST, you write:
> Steve,
>
> You're trying really hard to make this vicious and mean act go away.
Once
> the
> pumpkin is broken up like that. . . wait a minute. I was gonna try
to get
> you
> to understand that it was time to let go. It probably is, but what
would a
> plastic surgeon do, if a terrible accident happened? Reconstruct!
Exactly, it would be stupid not to at least try. "If it can be fixed,
fix it.
If it can't be, at least try"!
>
> The thing is, time is against you. And there is not going to be any
> regenerative tissues. The pumpkin is already breaking down, more and
more
> everyday. Infection is bound to set in. It doesn't look good.
>
Nah, it is outdoors in 40-45 degrees, and lower at night. With fungicide
or
sulpher application, it should last at least a couple of weeks. I would
be
able to have it to put out in front of our house, at least until
Thanksgiving
or so.
> Maybe you could use thin straight wire as "dowels". The sticky
molasses
> mixed
> with an antibacterial agent might help. If the pieces are large
enough,
> they
> might take to the dowels and hold on. If some are very small, this
is the
> hardest part.
>
Most of the pieces are pretty big, the biggest are around 50-60 pounds
each.
> There could be so much necrotic tissue in the small pieces that
saving them
> becomes impossible. You will have to find a donor pumpkin (I am
SERIOUS)
> and
> take proportional pieces from it. use wood or very fine metal to
attach.
>
> Do use a filler material as an armature for the pumpkin. This will
give it
> strength, or the whole thing will probably collapse. Stuff it on the
heavy
> side, so that if the pumpkin has a tendency to collapase, it will
rest on
> the
> filling.
>
> Make sure to do the reconstruction where the pumpkin is going to stay
as
> moving it will probably prove fatal.
>
> Good luck, Steve!
>
> Judy
> Jalust@aol.com
Hmm, good point! But instead of molases, which will probably attract
ants or
something, wouldn't tanglefoot be stickier? The molasses we have is more
like
just a thick syrup, not really sticky enough to actually hold anything
together, I don't think.
I don't know. I know honey has antibacterial and antifungal properties,
(they
used to use it to help preserve mummies, and honey has actually been
found in
containers from 5000 years ago, and it was still edible)! Of course it
would
take a lot of honey, (or molasses for that matter). Oh well, I'll figure
something out based on all the advice from you guys, etc.
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