I have been hesitant to relay on what I actually do for a living but I guess since everyone else is spilling their beans that it might as well be known that I am a cardiologist and have been in practice for over 25 years now. I also run a group practice which now has over 45 physicians employed. Doctors are not always easy to deal with. (You already knew that?) Sometimes I don't get into my patch until pretty late at night and so I have quartz lights out there that have turned my garden into what could pass for a night ball game. I have been gardening for awhile but didn't get into pumpkins until about 6 years ago. The group here has been very helpful and I believe the interchange has moved all of us light years ahead in our pumpkin growing ability. I have been very appreciative of the expert growers who have been willing to take the time to answer questions they have already probably answered a million times. As much time as I have spent on this I would still like someone to tell me exactly what a Dill ring is? Marv in Altoona