Re: Help & Truth
Here is an odd comment but I think it is true: who cares if pumpkins
are publicized. I really don't even care if there are prizes. I just love
growing giant pumpkins and if seems if we make organizations that are run to
make money, there will be problems. And I still think it is rotten to sell
seeds at the price you do when one can get them free on here, and growers
give the parentage where you don't. I also got mostly adds for other stuff
you sell with my pumpkin seeds that I ordered from you, along with some
instructions on how to plant my seeds which I could find anywhere on the
net. Personally I think you are in it for the money and fame but I could be
wrong and wish the evidence didn't always seem to point at it. Like your
investing money into promoting contests? Why? I figure so they would get
popular and you could make money on them. It seems that when ppl want help
an event grow, they get sponsers that have little to do with their sport,
they don't invest in it themselves unless they want the revenue for
themselves. And from your email it seems a lot of ppl have thought the same
thing considering they have tried to get you out of the business.
Greg
>From: LGOURD@aol.com
>Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>Subject: Re: Help & Truth
>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:43:52 EDT
>
>Doug, and some others on the list: (Duncan, I don't mean to be disruptive
>just defensive.)
>
>Do you really think anyone can control the media. If so, you're way off
>base. I've promoted the giant pumpkin for almost 20 years and most of it
>was
>for others. Do you know that until September of 1996, some six years after
>the Topsfield Incident where Robert Gancarz was thrown out of the contest
>because prize money would leave New England; the Topsfield Fair's
>telephone
>secretary was still claiming that their event was part of the World Pumpkin
>Confederation! That means they were expecting me to promote their contest
>for years? You also, don't know that I spent $6,000 of my own money to
>promote Howard Dill and the first WPC Weigh-Off back in 1983 "just for news
>releases". For printing and postage. And there is alot more. A whole lot
>more. Like: do you know that the GPC was started with one intention - to
>destroy Ray Waterman. Do you know a media campain was started to destroy
>me.
> I can show you the articles. Ask Al Kingsbury the Author of Dill's book.
>Ask around before you jump on the guy. Not too much good can be built on
>that. Think about it. Talk about it. React on it. Give me some ideas
>about
>what we can do bring pumpkin growing back under one rule. Something as
>good
>as the WPC was in the "80's. Maybe it's not possible. But I'm not to
>blame
>for all of the problems others created. And I'm sure not going to take the
>heat for any media reports.
>
>Do you know that today I spoke to the BBC. Because I've devoted my time
>and
>I've spent my money. And I'll still promote giant pumpkins. You just have
>to ask yourselves, if you want me to promote them for you? Yes, I sell a
>few
>seeds. What do you do to exist?
>
>Lets get real and get off my back. Start thinking about growing pumpkins.
>
>Ray Waterman
>
>P.S. Thanks to all my loyal growers, may you all grow 1,500 lbers. in
>2000.
>
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