Re: Help & Truth


Is that a copy of my post from a year ago? It sounds identical.. lol.. This is
not a bash.. it is just a question..

The Pumpkin Master wrote:

>      Here is an odd comment but I think it is true: who cares if pumpkins
> are publicized.  I really don't even care if there are prizes.  I just love
> growing giant pumpkins and if seems if we make organizations that are run to
> make money, there will be problems.  And I still think it is rotten to sell
> seeds at the price you do when one can get them free on here, and growers
> give the parentage where you don't.  I also got mostly adds for other stuff
> you sell with my pumpkin seeds that I ordered from you, along with some
> instructions on how to plant my seeds which I could find anywhere on the
> net.  Personally I think you are in it for the money and fame but I could be
> wrong and wish the evidence didn't always seem to point at it. Like your
> investing money into promoting contests?  Why?  I figure so they would get
> popular and you could make money on them.  It seems that when ppl want help
> an event grow, they get sponsers that have little to do with their sport,
> they don't invest in it themselves unless they want the revenue for
> themselves.  And from your email it seems a lot of ppl have thought the same
> thing considering they have tried to get you out of the business.
> Greg
>
> >From: LGOURD@aol.com
> >Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> >To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> >Subject: Re: Help & Truth
> >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:43:52 EDT
> >
> >Doug, and some others on the list: (Duncan, I don't mean to be disruptive
> >just defensive.)
> >
> >Do you really think anyone can control the media.  If so, you're way off
> >base.  I've promoted the giant pumpkin for almost 20 years and most of it
> >was
> >for others.  Do you know that until September of 1996, some six years after
> >the Topsfield Incident where Robert Gancarz was thrown out of the contest
> >because  prize money would leave New England; the Topsfield Fair's
> >telephone
> >secretary was still claiming that their event was part of the World Pumpkin
> >Confederation!  That means they were expecting me to promote their contest
> >for years?  You also, don't know that I spent $6,000 of my own money to
> >promote Howard Dill and the first WPC Weigh-Off back in 1983 "just for news
> >releases". For printing and postage.   And there is alot more.  A whole lot
> >more.  Like: do you know that the GPC was started with one intention - to
> >destroy Ray Waterman.  Do you know a media campain was started to destroy
> >me.
> >  I can show you the articles.  Ask Al Kingsbury the Author of Dill's book.
> >Ask around before you jump on the guy.  Not too much good can be built on
> >that.  Think about it. Talk about it. React on it.  Give me some ideas
> >about
> >what we can do bring pumpkin growing back under one rule.  Something as
> >good
> >as the WPC was in the "80's.  Maybe it's not possible.  But I'm not to
> >blame
> >for all of the problems others created.  And I'm sure not going to take the
> >heat for any media reports.
> >
> >Do you know that today I spoke to the BBC.  Because I've devoted my time
> >and
> >I've spent my money.  And I'll still promote giant pumpkins.  You just have
> >to ask yourselves, if you want me to promote them for you?  Yes, I sell a
> >few
> >seeds.  What do you do to exist?
> >
> >Lets get real and get off my back. Start thinking about growing pumpkins.
> >
> >Ray Waterman
> >
> >P.S.  Thanks to all my loyal growers, may you all grow 1,500 lbers. in
> >2000.
> >
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