Re: Help & Truth
no, it is not a copy.
>From: Lyle Rockwell <rocky.r@cyber-quest.com>
>Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>Subject: Re: Help & Truth
>Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 15:13:20 -0400
>
>Is that a copy of my post from a year ago? It sounds identical.. lol.. This
>is
>not a bash.. it is just a question..
>
>The Pumpkin Master wrote:
>
> > Here is an odd comment but I think it is true: who cares if
>pumpkins
> > are publicized. I really don't even care if there are prizes. I just
>love
> > growing giant pumpkins and if seems if we make organizations that are
>run to
> > make money, there will be problems. And I still think it is rotten to
>sell
> > seeds at the price you do when one can get them free on here, and
>growers
> > give the parentage where you don't. I also got mostly adds for other
>stuff
> > you sell with my pumpkin seeds that I ordered from you, along with some
> > instructions on how to plant my seeds which I could find anywhere on the
> > net. Personally I think you are in it for the money and fame but I
>could be
> > wrong and wish the evidence didn't always seem to point at it. Like your
> > investing money into promoting contests? Why? I figure so they would
>get
> > popular and you could make money on them. It seems that when ppl want
>help
> > an event grow, they get sponsers that have little to do with their
>sport,
> > they don't invest in it themselves unless they want the revenue for
> > themselves. And from your email it seems a lot of ppl have thought the
>same
> > thing considering they have tried to get you out of the business.
> > Greg
> >
> > >From: LGOURD@aol.com
> > >Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > >To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > >Subject: Re: Help & Truth
> > >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:43:52 EDT
> > >
> > >Doug, and some others on the list: (Duncan, I don't mean to be
>disruptive
> > >just defensive.)
> > >
> > >Do you really think anyone can control the media. If so, you're way
>off
> > >base. I've promoted the giant pumpkin for almost 20 years and most of
>it
> > >was
> > >for others. Do you know that until September of 1996, some six years
>after
> > >the Topsfield Incident where Robert Gancarz was thrown out of the
>contest
> > >because prize money would leave New England; the Topsfield Fair's
> > >telephone
> > >secretary was still claiming that their event was part of the World
>Pumpkin
> > >Confederation! That means they were expecting me to promote their
>contest
> > >for years? You also, don't know that I spent $6,000 of my own money to
> > >promote Howard Dill and the first WPC Weigh-Off back in 1983 "just for
>news
> > >releases". For printing and postage. And there is alot more. A whole
>lot
> > >more. Like: do you know that the GPC was started with one intention -
>to
> > >destroy Ray Waterman. Do you know a media campain was started to
>destroy
> > >me.
> > > I can show you the articles. Ask Al Kingsbury the Author of Dill's
>book.
> > >Ask around before you jump on the guy. Not too much good can be built
>on
> > >that. Think about it. Talk about it. React on it. Give me some ideas
> > >about
> > >what we can do bring pumpkin growing back under one rule. Something as
> > >good
> > >as the WPC was in the "80's. Maybe it's not possible. But I'm not to
> > >blame
> > >for all of the problems others created. And I'm sure not going to take
>the
> > >heat for any media reports.
> > >
> > >Do you know that today I spoke to the BBC. Because I've devoted my
>time
> > >and
> > >I've spent my money. And I'll still promote giant pumpkins. You just
>have
> > >to ask yourselves, if you want me to promote them for you? Yes, I sell
>a
> > >few
> > >seeds. What do you do to exist?
> > >
> > >Lets get real and get off my back. Start thinking about growing
>pumpkins.
> > >
> > >Ray Waterman
> > >
> > >P.S. Thanks to all my loyal growers, may you all grow 1,500 lbers. in
> > >2000.
> > >
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