RE: Circumference


     Since there is so much variety in AG's, are we sure that thick walls is 
a genetic trait that one seed definatley has, like if I get a certin seed, 
it will have thick walls?  Or can one pumpkin have thick walls on a plant 
and another one on the same plant have thin walls.


>From: "Michalec, Chris" <cmicha@chmc.org>
>Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>To: "'pumpkins@mallorn.com'" <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>Subject: RE: Circumference
>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:59:06 -0700
>
>I might be able to help with this after this years weighoffs.  I have two
>pumpkins that are whithin 3 inches of each other in total OTT measurements.
>One is a long low blob at 133" circumference and the other is tall, blocky,
>and wider than it is long with a 113" circumference.  If they were both on
>the same plant it would even be better, but no such luck.  If I take the
>larger circumference fruit to an earlier weighoff the other one may match
>it's OTT numbers with another week to grow.  It will be interesting to see
>how it comes out.  Different shaped fruit from the same plant would be the
>best way to determine this because they would have the same genetic
>tendancies for either thick or thin walls.  I suspect that the one with the
>smaller circumferece would be heavier because the stem end of the fruit is
>the thickest and with wider shoulders around the stem there would be more
>mass than one that has more of its area given over to a thinner part of the
>fruit.  Maybe some others could weigh in on this one.  For those of us who
>may be competative at multiple weighoffs in the next month it may affect 
>the
>decision making process when harvesting our pumpkins at various dates.  (Do
>I bring the one I think may be heavier to the early weighoff, or save it 
>for
>the later one where there may be less heavyweight competition and a better
>chance of placing higher?)  These two I have, have been within a few inches
>of each other all season.  I get more of a sense of mass from the larger
>circumference fruit though.  Both fruit had siblings from their plants
>weighed at the Puyallup fair and ended up being very close to the charted
>weights with similar shapes. I've been thinking about this for a while now
>and it's not getting any easier.  If either of them stops growing 
>completely
>before the 7th, that will be the one going to Canby.  If both stop I don't
>know what I'm going to do.
>
>Chris Michalec
>Covington, Wa
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	The Eatons [SMTP:eatrich@magma.ca]
> > Sent:	Wednesday, September 13, 2000 12:49 PM
> > To:	pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > Subject:	Circumference
> >
> > Hi Will Neily--I believe the one with the smaller circumference will 
>weigh
> > heaviest,but it is not something that I can prove.What do you 
>think??--Al
> > Eaton
> > *******************************
> > Just kidding.
> >
> > On a more serious note, can anyone suggest the influence of the
> > circumference
> > measurement on the the total pumpkin measurement with regard to 
>predicted
> > weight?
> >
> > For example, if 2 pumpkins have the same total measurment, but one has a
> > larger circumference but smaller over-the-top measurements than the 
>other,
> > will one tend to weigh more the the other?
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
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