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Re: Oficial or unofficial?? that is the question!!

Dan: My question, I wanted addressed was not the date, it really doesn't  matter, a pumpkin's life is
80 day's, it really doesn't matter if you plant in Jan in Florida or in June in northern Ontario. Its weather that pumpkin
planted has been official weighed. A big part of this game is getting a pumpkin to the scales and verfied as you say by
a credible person. Which make it a jugging game as to cut it off or try to hold it for the closest weigh off. I like you, personal
believe, if its healthy at time, re rules, if its weighed with credible people(more than one) on official checked scales, it should count.
My problem & I guess my question is. Can you cut up a pumpkin that went down & weigh it on bathroom scales in pieces &
still get reconision of official weight -uow or is it just the fish that got away.?????????????????????????????
When choosing seed for the following year, we really at this time havn't a dependable source to find out if a big seed went
down to split, hole or whatever. We only know that the offical ones made it and all the uow's didn't for whatever reason which
may only be the area they were grown in & the time they were weighed.



At 08:24 PM 9/19/01 , you wrote:
Good answer..........wayne
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Subject: Re: Oficial or unofficial?? that is the question!!

Dan as far as I know if a pumpkin is weighed on official scales and you have witnesses it would count as a world record no matter when you weigh it.I think I would want my witnesses to be credible.Maybe site coordinators or someone like that.Jerry
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:33 PM
Subject: Oficial or unofficial?? that is the question!!

  List
  I don't post much anymore..mostly choosing to just lurk and respond privately IF I think I can honestly help........everyone has their opinions and there techniques......some I agree with others I don't nec. think work or apply in all climates and conditions......with that said I offer this...
      I say if they grow it.....then they grew it........whether or not it was weighed on a certain day really doesn't matter to me personally..BUT It should be show quality..as in healthy no holes and such.........that is really the only differences between Official and  Unofficial...right....??
   How about poor Tim In florida...he weighs in every year in florida way way early right.....no show or nothing ..just a witness.....what if he pops a huge fruit....I mean something larger then the current record.......would he be Official or unofficial......??
    remember back in the early 1990's when a well known grower in NY I do believe....cut and weighed in a squash early because it was on it's way to being illegal....splitting or cracked but not thru to the cavity.....Len something was his name I do believe......it counted as a NEW WORLD RECORD SQUASH....nothing was said about this.....
     what if someone had  aWorld record pumpkin and decided to take it early ...like this week..nothing wrong with the fruit just that he wanted to make sure he did not lose it  on the last week....would he be allowed to weigh it in early nowadays like some have done in the past and count it towards an official Worlds record...??
     If not ...then..........When did the rules change or have they changed..??

 DanCarlson
Ps.....everyone thinks October 6th or nothing......or maybe I misinterpeted what Bill was asking......alot of weigh-off are earlier.......all your state fairs are early...and the west coast has some huge fruit weighed in later on the west coast..example being Larues 1010 last year....you me to say this would not have counted either??  Isn't any of these contest OFFICIAL enough to count towards a record??



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Thanks,
Bill Van Iderstine
P.E.I. Record Holder @ 862 lbs.
http://aggc.1wh.com/aggc.asp
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