RE: Official or Not


I’m sorry, but I have to disagree Andrew.  Was Craig Weir’s pumpkin not good enough for the world record?  (Even if only for a few weeks.)  If someone would have weighed a 1300# fruit at Circleville, OH or Half Moon Bay, would that not be a world record?

 

Neither the GPC nor the WPC has any say in determining world records! 

 

If a fruit is weighed in at a GPC event, it is not automatically the world record.  It needs to be verified by Guinness or whoever else is recording the information.  For some people, the word of GPC officials may be enough, for others, additional proof may be required.

 

-Gus

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Papez [mailto:apapez@cogeco.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:29 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Official or Not

 

Mark,

 

Worlds largest maybe, world record no, needs to weighed on a predetermined day in your area before the season starts, it can't be at the growers convience. Geneva Emmons played by the rules and for somebody to take that crown away from her they have to abide by the same rules. World's largest pumpkin is streching it, I could live with that but world record that is not fair to the growers who hold the current record.

 

andrew

----- Original Message -----

From: k*@adelphia.net

To: p*@hort.net

Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:04 PM

Subject: RE: Official or Not

 

If I showed you a 1508 lb pumpkin tomorrow, let you cut it open after being weighed to insure there's no foul play/water/weights inside and that it was a perfect specimen with no faults, had the scale certified before & after weighing, in front of many witnesses (perhaps a fair, televised local news clip, etc) with GPC/WPC members (better yet, Officials) present as well as perhaps someone from Guiness or Cornell's Extension (maybe even a notary public?) I think I wouldn't be the only person to say/write that I grew the world's largest pumpkin ever/to date, or that I hold the world record (after all, "record" doesn't mean winner of a contest but accurately/truthfully RECORDED, right?) (All above provided nobody else was heavier than 1508.)

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [mailto:owner-pumpkins@hort.net]On Behalf Of Andrew Papez
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:58 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Official or Not

Mark K

 

You are correct it doesn't count, too many variables can affect the outcome. I'll give the example of my pumpkin, if I weighed it tommorrow and its a new Canadian record, I would be robbing Al Eaton of his accomplishment and he is being penalized for playing by the rules. We are all given a date and a time frame to have are pumpkins weighed and I feel this is what makes the hobby so challenging, if we are all given the opportunity to weigh are pumpkins anytime we want ,then there is no need for weigh offs and the hobby would die because then there would be no rules, and as for witnesses how can you possibably intrust them to Judge impartially when they are your neighbors, friends etc

 

andrew

----- Original Message -----

From: k*@adelphia.net

To: p*@hort.net

Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:33 AM

Subject: RE: Official or Not

 

This is an extremely unusual scenario but what if:

 

In 2001, by the time you fixed all the slashed tires on the truck (or maybe the truck broke down on the way) & got to the weighoff (at nite) when everybody was gone except a photographer for the newspaper, the scale company person, the head of the organization and a few members, and...  your pumpkin was weighed, witnessed & photographed at 1270 lbs, does it not count because you weren't there during proper hours?

 

OR...

 

In 2001, you didn't see that last pumpkin out in the back field until 10/30 (actually it was green & blended in with the leaves,) you harvested it, had it weighed on a certified scale, witnessed & photographed at 1270 lbs, does it not count because you weren't there on the 5th at a sanctioned event?

 

Mark

 

P.S. Can I REALLY count on 6-8 guys' help on 10/5/02 about 8-9am? Can 1 of you bring a full-size pickup truck? It won't fit in my Blazer & I don't want to miss the Clarence, NY show; or maybe Altoona pays more--it's about 200 miles farther than Clarence so I'd need everybody here by 6am or so. I can make some heirloom tomato sandwiches for the road...

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [mailto:owner-pumpkins@hort.net]On Behalf Of Andrew Papez



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