RE: Rot Inside AGs
- Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
- From: S* M* <m*@yahoo.com>
- Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:53:43 -0700 (PDT)
Yes, indeed,and I was recently chastised in a nice way for not doing this last
year. Yea, verily, thou shalt do thy soil test each fall, and then make amends
for the spring planting. If you don't know, you can't grow. Steve M.
--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com> wrote:
From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 6:52 PM
"A soil test will tell you everything about your soil"
My Dad, 1987
Steve Haberman
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
mltovar
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 6:37 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Rot Inside AGs
Hi Steve
Sounds like you got it under control. Where there's worms life is good
under the soil.
cheers
Marc
Steve Minor wrote:
>My horse manure/sawdust mixture is BLACK and crawling with red worms. I
mix
>it up with maple leaves and use a composting accelerator sprayed with a
>high-nitrogen grass fertilizer in the fall. In the spring, before I use it
>for plants, I drown the mixture in fish emulsion and turn it to mix it up
at
>least 2 weeks before I plant my AGs in Miracle-Gro potting soil in the
middle
>of the compost mix. I then plant my seedlings and try not to water or
>fertilize too much for the first 7-10 days, then start using a high P
>fertilizer for root growth once a week at one-half strength plus diluted
>foliar feedings. Hopefully this will do until the second month or so when
I
>start feeding diluted fish emulsion for plant growth. I also use
mycorrhizae
>wantonly from day 1. Hopefully, during all this, my plants get enough N to
>grow. If anyone has any suggestions to add to this, please let me know, as
>this is only my second year. Steve M.
>
>--- On Wed, 9/2/09, mltovar <mltovar@wooden-clockworks.com> wrote:
>
>From: mltovar <mltovar@wooden-clockworks.com>
>Subject: Re: Rot Inside AGs
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 2:54 PM
>
>Steve, wood chips, sawdust, and ground up pallets will suck the
>nitrogen out of your soil. Just google "nitrogen and wood chips" and
>there's a lot of info out there.
>cheers
>Marc
>layton, ut
>
>Steve Minor wrote:
>
>
>
>>Thanks again, Steve. I'm hoping my composted horse manure/sawdust source
>>isn't infected. I'm going to protect the main vines from excessive
moisture
>>next year along with the other steps I mentioned before and aim for a
>>weigh-off 2010. With all the rain we had in VT this year, a 50 lb mound
of
>>sand under my AGs just wasn't enough. I still think a field-sized
>>
>>
>greenhouse
>
>
>>is the way to go. LOL. Steve M.
>>
>>--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
>>Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
>>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 12:02 PM
>>
>>You could be growing on sand & pulp mill fabric now. We do & the fruit rot
>>diseases are no longer an issue here.
>>
>>Stephen Jepsen
>>CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
>>GPC Executive Committee
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of
>>Steve Minor
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:17 AM
>>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
>>
>>Thanks, Steve. I'm moving my patch for a few years and plan to limit
>>watering
>>to soaker hoses and no contact between fruit and soil at all. We've had a
>>lot
>>of rain and cloudy days for the past 2 seasons in Vermont, and that only
>>multiplied the problem. Maybe I should build large hoop houses as well.
:-)
>>
>>Steve M.
>>--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
>>Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
>>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 9:46 PM
>>
>>Sorry for your loss.
>>
>>Often times we'll conclude there was an unseen breach, but inn this case
>>more likely a vascular fungal pathogen found its way into the mix.
>>
>>Stephen Jepsen
>>CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
>>GPC Executive Committee
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of
>>Steve Minor
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:05 PM
>>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>Subject: Rot Inside AGs
>>
>>How does rot start inside an AG? My last three giants all succumbed to
rot
>>and were smelly and hot inside when opened, inspite of all the care I gave
>>them Steve M.
>>
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