RE: Rot Inside AGs


"A soil test will tell you everything about your soil"
My Dad, 1987
Steve Haberman

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
mltovar
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 6:37 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Rot Inside AGs

Hi Steve
Sounds like you got it under control.   Where there's worms life is good 
under the soil.
cheers
Marc

Steve Minor wrote:

>My horse manure/sawdust mixture is BLACK and crawling with red worms.  I
mix
>it up with maple leaves and use a composting accelerator sprayed with a
>high-nitrogen grass fertilizer in the fall.  In the spring, before I use it
>for plants, I drown the mixture in fish emulsion and turn it to mix it up
at
>least 2 weeks before I plant my AGs in Miracle-Gro potting soil in the
middle
>of the compost mix.  I then plant my seedlings and try not to water or
>fertilize too much for the first 7-10 days, then start using a high P
>fertilizer for root growth once a week at one-half strength plus diluted
>foliar feedings.  Hopefully this will do until the second month or so when
I
>start feeding diluted fish emulsion for plant growth.  I also use
mycorrhizae
>wantonly from day 1.  Hopefully, during all this, my plants get enough N to
>grow.  If anyone has any suggestions to add to this, please let me know, as
>this is only my second year.  Steve M.
>
>--- On Wed, 9/2/09, mltovar <mltovar@wooden-clockworks.com> wrote:
>
>From: mltovar <mltovar@wooden-clockworks.com>
>Subject: Re: Rot Inside AGs
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 2:54 PM
>
>Steve, wood chips, sawdust, and ground up pallets will suck  the
>nitrogen out of your soil.  Just google "nitrogen and wood chips" and
>there's a lot of info out there.
>cheers
>Marc
>layton, ut
>
>Steve Minor wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Thanks again, Steve.  I'm hoping my composted horse manure/sawdust source
>>isn't infected.  I'm going to protect the main vines from excessive
moisture
>>next year along with the other steps I mentioned before and aim for a
>>weigh-off 2010.  With all the rain we had in VT this year, a 50 lb mound
of
>>sand under my AGs just wasn't enough.  I still think a field-sized
>>    
>>
>greenhouse
>  
>
>>is the way to go.  LOL.  Steve M.
>>
>>--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
>>Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
>>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 12:02 PM
>>
>>You could be growing on sand & pulp mill fabric now. We do & the fruit rot
>>diseases are no longer an issue here.
>>
>>Stephen Jepsen
>>CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
>>GPC Executive Committee
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of
>>Steve Minor
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:17 AM
>>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
>>
>>Thanks, Steve.  I'm moving my patch for a few years and plan to limit
>>watering
>>to soaker hoses and no contact between fruit and soil at all.  We've had a
>>lot
>>of rain and cloudy days for the past 2 seasons in Vermont, and that only
>>multiplied the problem.  Maybe I should build large hoop houses as well.
:-)
>>
>>Steve M.
>>--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
>>Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
>>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 9:46 PM
>>
>>Sorry for your loss.
>>
>>Often times we'll conclude there was an unseen breach, but inn this case
>>more likely a vascular fungal pathogen found its way into the mix.
>>
>>Stephen Jepsen
>>CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
>>GPC Executive Committee
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of
>>Steve Minor
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:05 PM
>>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>Subject: Rot Inside AGs
>>
>>How does rot start inside an AG?  My last three giants all succumbed to
rot
>>and were smelly and hot inside when opened, inspite of all the care I gave
>>them  Steve M.
>>
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