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Re: [SG] Groundhog Control

At 12:48 PM 4/15/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Richard
>you could try to flood them out by sticking a hose as far down the hole
>as posible and let it rip,however this could lead to creating a large
>under ground  cavity
>so be carful if you try this.Best methed is patience and a good aim if
>you live in the country get yourself a 22 cal. if your in town then use
>a .17 cal air rifle.and use the pointed pellets.
>
>Gary
>Amber Wave Gardens
>Benton Harbor MI. zone 6
>
>
>
>Gary,
>It is a shame that you cannot share. I do not care to read this type of
message
>on a listserve that I have enjoyed very much. This is supposed to be about
>shade gardening -- not shooting animals. Get yourself signed up for a hunting
>listserve if that is what you want to talk about.
>
>-Amber
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>Amber:
I am hoping that this is not going to start some kind of verbal war, but I
think Gary had every right to suggest a way to rid the garden of a real
pest.  I realize "shooting " an anamial, is not the prefered option for
everyone, but it is necessary for many folks, in order to keep a garden at
all.  I didn't see you express any concern , when the conversation was
about killing slugs, by any means.  It is improtant to understand that
Ground Hogs,like deer, have become a problem in many areas, because their
"natural" enemies are non existant.  Like any species of anamial, where
man's intervention in nature, has upset the balance, some means must be
found to "correct" the problem>.  Throwing up a smoke screen of" oh please
don't shoot them", will not solve any thing !( I would like to note here
that I am not a hunter and have never owned a hunting licence)  I would ,
really. be intrested in some concrete ideas from you .  why do you think we
have this problem ?  how extensive do you think it is ?  Have you ever
experienced having to deal with Ground Hogs yourself?  What alternatives
can you suggest.  Please don't suggest things that mearly cause the
anamials to go to some other area, and dig in someone's elses garden.  That
is not a solution.  This is certainly a "real" garden question and needs to
be discussed!
Ran Lydell
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