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Re: [PRIMROSES] SCALE YOUR TREES

Hello Ken,

I wish I had saved your posting some time ago on the systemic granules.
I'll see if I can find them and give them a try. Thanks for the info. If
someone knew a mail order source off the top of their head that would be
great. Dexol systemic granules.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And now for the bed under tree discussion.....................

I think a lot depends on the stage in the life of the tree. Some mature
trees would be stressed by lots of water and fertilizer. If a tree has been
in a location for 75 years almost any change could cause stress. I have
seen trees take a decade to die from damage and not been able to help. If
we could only glue limbs and roots back on  trees or had a time
machine.......................

In the forest less than 1% of tree seeds make it to the tree stage. There
is a lot of natural selection going on here. There is competition that
limits growth, but trees are well adapted to steady state conditions. In
the forest there are not many sudden changes. With trees slow and steady
wins the race.

Just a reminder,  I am talking about large mature trees.

It is a real shame that the trees in peoples yards seem to suffer the most.
Almost without exception trees along ditches and in the woods are in better
health. Trees are easily damaged and easily loved to death.

Trees are on a different time scale than we are. Its hard to picture damage
done to your tree today showing up as a problem in 10 or 15 years.

If your fill soil allows for good air passage it does not cause as much of
a problem. Compost can be put down a lot thicker than clay.

Almost any general statement about trees is bound to have many exceptions.

As a general statement.......... try to limit grade changes in the root
zone to one or two inches per year to allow the tree roots to grow upward
into the soil for air exchange.

Touch trees.

Dan Nelson
zone 7

PS. Sitting here on my desk are 13.6 billion spores of the ectomycorrhizal
fungus  Pisolithus tinctorius. This is the first year they have been
available. The US Forest service have been using them for several years to
help in reclaiming strip mined areas. I hope to use them to reverse the
slow decline of large trees in the stressed urban forest. At a penny a
piece they are a bit steep<joke>.
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> From: Marekmohr <Marekmohr@AOL.COM>
> To: PRIMROSES@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
> Subject: Re: [PRIMROSES] SCALE YOUR TREES
> Date: Sunday, January 04, 1998 2:46 PM
>
> In a message dated 98-01-04 01:26:06 EST, you write:
>
> << sussextreeinc@CE.NET  >>
>
>
> HEY TREE BOY.....
>
> how you been.....
>
> 1)  HAD PREVIOUSLY POSTED ABOUT DEXOL SYSTEMIC GRANULES....IT IS LISTED
AS
> EFFECTIVE AGAINST  SOFT BROWN, CAMELIA,RHODO AND TEA SCALE....DONT KNOW
IF IT
> IS CURRENTLY ON THE MARKET....LISTED FOR HOUSE PLANTS....1%
> DISULLFOTON....99%INERT....LABEL DOESNT MENTION CACTUS PER SE.....
>
> 2)  AS TO OUR 'BED UNDER TREE' DISCUSSION....DO YOU THINK THERE IS A
MAJOR
> DIFFERENCE WHETHER THE BED IN MADE UNDER A TREE THAT IS WATERED AND
FERTILIZED
> BECAUSE OF A HEALTHY LAWN, VERSUS DISTURBING A TREE IN A WOODLAND.....THE
> WOMAN WHO LOST A TREE WAS DIGGING A PATH IN A WOODLAND SETTING.....WOULD
THAT
> TREE BE UNDER MORE NATURAL STRESS AND COMPETITION.... AND POTENTIALLY BE
> COMPETEING WITH ALL THE OTHER TREES FOR WATER AND NUTRIENTS, THEREFORE
NOT AS
> ABLE TO TAKE THE STRESS OF ROOT DISTURBANCE....AS COMPARED TO A SINGLE
TREE IN
> THE MIDDLE OF THE LAWN THAT GETS POUND AFTER POUND OF FERT AND GAL AFTER
GAL
> OF WATER.....JUST WONDERING....
>
> KEN...SEE LINE 3...
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