Hi - Sandy said to send a bio so here it is. I live in Southern Oregon and I have forgotten my zone number again. I look it up and forget it on a regular basis. Sorry. We have lots of shade even if we don't want it cause lots of time the sun doesn't shine. I grow lots of iris and daylilies. No hostas because of the deer. No roses either. I'm a librarian so consider me a research tool if you wish. I'm happy to be here. Frances