>I'm also in Zone 9. And the sunset numbers you keep hearing about are >the zones set up by Sunset (of the magazine fame) in their Sunset >Western Garden book. Sunset has expanded their reach to entire US, with the Sunset National Garden book published in Mar 1997. >Sunset breaks down the western US into 24 climate zones. This expands the list to 45 climate zones! Sue L. zone 4a/43 MN