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Re: [SHADEGARDENS] to rake or not to rake?

At 09:41 AM 3/24/98 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-03-24 02:17:53 EST, Clyde wrote:
>
><< But whatever it is, move it from the vincas.  Hostas do not compete with
> vincas. The latter win every time. Also, English ivy will finally smother
>your
> hostas.
>  >>
>
>I find this information very helpful.  I'd like to expand the scope of this
>discussion to include even more ground covers, like Pachysandra terminalis
and
>procumbens (Japanese and Allegheny spurges), Lamium maculatum (spotted dead
>nettle), Tiarella cordifolia (foam flower), Phlox divaricata (woodland
phlox),
>Mitchella repens (partridge berry), Myosotis sylvatica (forget-me-nots, the
>perennial one?), Paxistima canbyi, Iris cristata (crested iris), and any
>Lysimachias (moneyworts) or the short Thymes...
>I know there are many more I haven't mentioned, or even heard of....
>
>What plants, herbaceous or woody, has anyone tried to grow through these and
>other ground covers and then found out that the ground cover was just too
>aggressive for the plant?  It would be helpful to include what the growing
>conditions are when describing your experiences, like whether the area is
>moist or dry, shade or part shade, what zone you live in.  For example, I've
>heard that Lysimachia nummularia is not a problem for us up here in zone 4
but
>that it is farther south because we can easily pull it out where we want
>to...hmmmm....can you also include how easily it is to remove from around
your
>other plants if the competition appears to be too much?
>
>
>Thanks,
>Cindy Johnson
>White Bear Lake, MN
>zone4a
>
>p.s.  I know some of this info has already been discussed, but I'd like to
>start compiling it now....why didn't I think of this earlier?...I'm so new at
>this (about 3 or 4 years now) that I'd appreciate any info at all!
>************
Before any of you start moving all your hostas out of your vinca, do a
little expermenting.  Try planting the same variety as you already have in
vinca, somewhere near by, and compair results . I have have used vinca with
Hostas and lilies for years and found no real problems.  It should be noted
that if you look at the root system of Vinca, you will find it is uasually
in the first three inches or so.  a little closer to the surface than Hosta
and lily roots.
Ran Lydell>
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