In a message dated 98-03-29 16:19:12 EST, acahanes@FRONTIERNET.NET writes: << I would like to know of an ornamental grass that would be tall enough to plant in the middle of it. I live in zone 4. >> Is there a variety or species of Pennisetum that is hardy in zone 4? Thats what you want if we can find one that is hardy. Clyde Crockett z5 ccredux@aol.com Indy Indiana