Re: Corydalis
- To: s*@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
- Subject: Re: [SG] Corydalis
- From: N* S*
- Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 21:37:14 -0400
My new favorite book, which came in the mail yesterday, is Daniel Hinkley's
The Explorer's Garden (from Timber Press). It is all about the new plants
he's discovered, propagated, etc.--sort of the Heronswood catalogue but with
photos and good cultural information (usually not Hinkley's strong point).
Anyway, there's a chapter on corydalis. No photos of C. ochroleuca, but
plenty of shots of all the newer blue and purple ones.
I have two gardens--my tiny one that has spilled over into my neighbors'
property (they don't seem to mind), and the limitless one in my head I plant
while I'm bored exercising or waiting for people to show up for lunch. This
book is really fueling my "big" garden.
Nancy S.
>FYI, direct copy and paste from GRIN for search on Corydalis ochroleuca -
>appears this name is a synonym for the actual name which is Pseudofumaria
>alba, BUT the really interesting thing is a search on Pseudofumaria alba
>only brings up several lists of synonyms in languages I don't
>read...whereas a search on Corydalis ochroleuca brings up assorted
>nurseries who carry it and gardens where it's in bloom or lists of plants
>grown in such and such a botanical garden, seed germination databases, an
>article I did mentioning it (wherein there is a photo if you're interested
>- http://www.i5ive.com/article.cfm/shade_gardening/15635 - scroll down
>it's sort of past the middle of the article - all sorts of hits....wonder
>if the Taxonomists know that everybody is calling this plant a Corydalis?
>
>Results from GRIN Taxonomy Database
>
>Taxon: Pseudofumaria alba (Mill.) Lidén
>
>Genus: Pseudofumaria
>Family: Papaveraceae. Also placed in: Fumariaceae
>Nomen number: 405103.
>Place of publication: Opera Bot. 88:32. 1986.
>Name verified on 19-Apr-1996 by Systematic Botany Laboratory. Last updated:
>22-May-1997.
>No species priority site assigned. No accessions for species.
>
>Species range:
>•Europe: Albania; Greece [northwest]; Italy; Yugoslavia •natzd. in w.
>Europe
>Species citations:
>•T. G. Tutin et al., eds. 1993. Flora europaea, second edition. (F Eur ed2)
>
>•W. Greuter et al., eds. 1984-. Med-Checklist. (L Medit)
>•M. Liden. 1986. Opera Bot. 88:32.
>
>Synonyms for species:
>•Corydalis ochroleuca W. D. J. Koch, nom. illeg.
>•Fumaria alba Mill.
>
>Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
>mtalt@clark.net
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>> From: GeneBush <genebush@OTHERSIDE.COM>
>> Date: Saturday, September 25, 1999 2:37 PM
>>
>> Hello Bobbi & others,
>> Not much of a resemblance between the two species of Corydalis. C.
>lutea is a
>> smaller plant in general if both are equally well placed in the garden.
>Also more
>> green in foliage, a bit more heavy in substance of the leaves. Blooms are
>a
>> definite yellow, which includes the lip in the flower. C. ochroleuca (no
>common
>> name that I can find as yet) is a bit larger in size, blue-green in
>foliage and
>> more finely cut leaves for a more feathery look. Blooms are cream-white
>with
>> yellow lip.
>> I do not have the white form of C. lutea in the garden or the
>nursery. Just
>> never got around to ordering it.
>> I tried to grow the blue flowering Corydalis several years here and
>gave up.
>> Quite a few species and selections were tried from different nurseries at
>some
>> very nice prices. They were tried in several locations and
>micro-environments
>> including just leaving them in a nursery pot. None made it past the
>second year.
>> I have trouble finding the name of C. ochroleuca in any of the
>literature I
>> have here... and I have quite an extensive library of books on gardening.
>Most
>> references are found in an occasional nursery catalog, if at all.
>Probably the
>> reason no one has come up with a common name. Just has not been in the
>trade long
>> enough. If you read the last few messages and this one on C. orcho. then
>you know
>> just about as much as there is to know except for seeing a photograph.
>Stay tuned.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Roberta Diehl <diehlr@INDIANA.EDU>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 8:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SG] Corydalis
>>
>>
>> > I have heard that the blue corydalis really doesn't like our zone 5/6
>> > climate and will not live a long time for us. Think of it as a very
>> > expensive annual that may live over for a couple of years!
>> >
>> > C. ochroleuca, now, sounds like a good one to try. Gene, does it
>closely
>> > resemble C. lutea, because I have seen what I thought was a white C.
>lutea
>> > several places (I think maybe even at your nursery) and have been
>wanting
>> > some for years.
>> >
>> > Bobbi Diehl
>> > Bloomington, IN
>> > zone 5/6
>
>
