Re: planting time
- Subject: Re: [sibrob] planting time
- From: E* G* <e*@yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:03:54 -0800 (PST)
--- laurief <laurief@paulbunyan.net> wrote:
> Ellen, I believe we made that exchange in May rather than
> July, didn't
> we? I remember having to do a bit of convincing for an early
> spring
> trade. ;-) I didn't want a repeat of the sort of wholesale
> death I had
> the year before when I planted Sibs in the heat.
Ah, maybe I did sent your plants in May...you see, 'we' don't
get the hot weather you do in you section of N. America. We
rarely get above a maximum of 85 F(rarely) here. We have gotten
to 90 F in July but that is not a common occurence. Heat is not
our problem in this altitude. Frost is more of a problem in May
and Sept. than high temps. in July.
Ellen
The plants
> you sent
> last year settled in beautifully, btw.
> >
> >**The conventional wisdom tells most of us that planting
> should
> >be done before or after summer.
>
> In 2002, I purchased 67 Sibs from 5 different growers. They
> all arrived
> in fine and healthy condition. Unfortunately (and stupidly),
> I ordered
> them later in the spring than I should have, and they all
> arrived about a
> week before our temps hit 90+ degrees and stayed hot on and
> off
> throughout the summer. Shortly after planting, most of the
> Sibs went
> what I *hoped* was completely dormant in the heat, losing all
> their
> leaves and never regrowing any new ones. I watered them
> consistently and
> heavily all summer and continued to hope that in spite of
> their apparent
> dormancy, they'd pop back to life in the spring of '03.
> Didn't happen.
> Of the 67 planted in '02, only 16 were still alive last
> spring, and most
> (if not all) of those 16 never went "dormant" after planting.
> OUCH!
>
> Since then, I have read warnings in a couple of growers'
> culture sheets
> that Sibs should not be planted less than a month before 90
> degree temps.
> From what I understand, Sibs will not grow new roots when
> temps exceed 90
> degrees. What I now assume happened to my '02 transplants was
> that the
> heat prevented them from rooting in, and with all the water I
> was giving
> them, they just sat there and rotted instead.
>
> I learned that lesson the hard way, and in '03 I was much more
> successful
> with my beardless purchases. I had my first order delivered
> in early
> spring when Sib foliage had just barely broken ground here and
> we were
> still having frosty nights. Those new additions never missed
> a beat,
> never lost a leaf, and several of them (versicolors, not Sibs)
> even
> amazed me with bloom just a couple months after planting!
>
> In mid-August, I received another Sib order and was very
> nervous because
> our temps were still above 90 (way late for that sort of heat
> here). I
> knew if I planted them out in the beardless bed, they'd be
> dead within a
> week. I opted, instead, to pot them up and keep the pots in a
> kiddie
> pool holding a couple inches of water in a shaded area on the
> north side
> of the house where they stayed as cool as possible. There
> they remained
> until late October when I removed the pots from the pool and
> buried them
> along the west side of the house foundation for the winter.
> Most of the
> potted Sibs lost a lot of their leaves, but none went
> completely dormant.
> Early next spring when the Sibs start to send up foliage,
> I'll dig up
> the pots, unpot the Sibs, and plant them in the beardless bed.
>
> Since I really don't care to fuss with potting late arrivals
> again, I'll
> will be ordering Sibs exclusively in early spring from now on.
> That's
> clearly the most successful timing for my garden ... so far,
> anyway.
>
> Laurie
>
>
>
> -----------------
> laurief@paulbunyan.net
> http://www.geocities.com/lfandjg/
> http://www.angelfire.com/mn3/shadowood/irisintro.html
> USDA zone 3b, AHS zone 4 - northern MN
> acidic clay soil
>
>
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