Re: b & s
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- Subject: Re: [sibrob] b & s
- From: A* W*
- Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:32:02 -0500 (EST)
Having never had B & S amount to a hill of beans, my standards for
judgeing yellow are pretty low, but my favorites are: Welfenchatz (for an
older variety) Summer Revels (my favorite new one with a modern look) Tom
Schafer ( for a more simple look), Isabelle ( very soft yellow, very late,
which is nice) Hello Yellow (Which I have had only for about 2 years,
but the color is very strong) Chartreuse Bounty ( I don't grow it, but It
struck me because it is so different) Moonsilk ( nice soft yellow, it has
it good years and bad years, but when its nice, its nice) Pas de Deux (
unfortunately, I liked it but the mice liked it more, so I need to get it
back)
Looking at the Yellows that Marty Schafer is getting now
has kind of put me off of any of the older ones. He has so many form
and color variations, but more importantly, branching, which is perhaps
the major limiting factor in bloom period with yellows so far.
Andrew
>
> I'm not the one that brought up the 10 best yellows but I will mention my
> favorites. WELFENSCHATZ is my best grower and shows the most promise.
> Unfortunately I listed it in my catalog and everybody ordered it so I'm back
> to having hardly any stock so I won't be able to list it again next year.
>
> My old standby for a good almost yellow is DREAMING YELLOW. It is a good
> landscape plant and has nice yellow buds. The flowers fade to white but
> that's OK.
>
> SUMMER REVELS from Schafer/Sacks was outstanding this year but it is only a
> second year plant so it is hard to judge what it will do. I'm also growing
> Currier's MERRYSPRING, and BUTTER AND CREAM. Both have nice yellow flowers
> but some major faults on bloom sequence and foliage habit so far.
>
> TOM SCHAEFER and SUNNY SPELLS from Schafer/Sacks will be second year plants
> next bloom season. The pictures of each are pretty but neither bloomed in
> May after being planted in April.
>
> MOONSILK can be very good or it can be very temperamental. It's a nice
> yellow color.
>
> Carol Warner
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Harold Peters <harold@directcon.net>
> To: <sibrob@egroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [sibrob] b & s
>
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> > Please post or send me the list of the 8 to 10 nice yellows since 1990. I
> am
> > very interested.
> >
> > The Warner/Wilson rating system for Siberians used in the Draycott Garden
> > catalog has Caesar's Brother as a 5/5/5. For those not familar with the
> > rating system 5 is the best rating and the three numbers are plant
> > vigor/foliage habit/bloom habit.
> >
> > Harold Peters
> > Beautiful View Iris Garden
> > El Dorado Hills, CA USDA zone 9
> > harold@directcon.net www.beautiful-view-iris.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew Wheeler" <awheele2@abacus.bates.edu>
> > To: <sibrob@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:17 AM
> > Subject: [sibrob] b & s
> >
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> > > As far as "availability" is concerned, there are many varieties that are
> > > better in color, but might not be available at, say, a garden center. If
> > > you want something bad enough, you can often find out how to get it,
> > > including yellow siberians, of which roughly 8-10 NICE ones have been
> > > introduced since 1990.
> > > The other problem:
> > > I know I've mentioned this on the list before, but here it is again....
> > > often any yellow siberian iris is passed off as Butter & Sugar, and the
> > > same goes for Caesar's Brother. The real Caesar's Brother is quite
> nice,
> > > so if you aren't happy with yours, aquire it from a different source.
> When
> > > we finally got the real one, we finally understood the difference.
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you tell us why you are replacing those varieties? Also what is
> your
> > > > wholesale market area? Very important questions that will greatly
> affect
> > the
> > > > answers. There is a reason that both Caesar's Brother and Butter and
> > Sugar
> > > > are still around and sold almost everywhere. Caesar's Brother does
> very
> > well
> > > > for me in zone 9. I even had both in pots and they survived a
> Sacramento
> > > > summer. According to my expert 3 years ago when I obtained it is that
> > Butter
> > > > and Sugar is still the best yellow Siberian available.
> > > >
> > > > Harold Peters
> > > > Beautiful View Iris Garden
> > > > El Dorado Hills, CA USDA zone 9
> > > > harold@directcon.net www.beautiful-view-iris.com
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "William C. Dougherty" <103225.2126@compuserve.com>
> > > > To: "sibrob" <sibrob@egroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 4:59 AM
> > > > Subject: [sibrob] SR - Topic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello evryone!
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow! Anyone out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a question for eveyone. If you were in the wholesale nursery
> > > > > business which Siberians would you propagate to replace Caesar's
> > Brother
> > > > > and Butter & Sugar and Ruffled Velvet?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are my choices:
> > > > >
> > > > > Gull's Wing/Esther CDM
> > > > > Jewelled Crown
> > > > > Liberty Hills
> > > > > Coronation Anthem
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> > > > > Bill Dougherty
> > > > > Fridley, MN. Temps still in the 60s during the day!
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