Re: SAGE Project

Chris Darlington comments:
"We now need interesting non SA's.  I like BLACK OUT, but will use anything others decide will make attracting interesting seedlings."
 
Neil responds:
I think it will be rather fun to see what various members of the team select following the guidelines set forth.  "The best that you have...." split into two extremes--those with the ledge or shelf, and those without.
 
Many fine breeders are currently available.  The comments about SWINGTOWN, for example, performing well in widely different climates and conditions set me to wondering, "Does it have the ledge?"  I am so strongly reminded of AMETHYST FLAME by Swingtown that I did a double take when I looked closely at its photo on the HIPS "Quick Fix" list.  Amethyst Flame has a conspicuous raised ridge that extends far beyond the end of the beard.  I wish I could find a closeup of Swingtown to see if the same is present there.  It would be one of my choices in either case.  Likewise, I am quite fond of Sutton's DEVONSHIRE CREAM.  The published pedigree may not be correct, if I understand a comment Mike made a while back.  He said George was thinking of changing the registered parentage but didn't know if he had done so or not.  Whether the published parentage is correct or not, it is a fine, fine iris and has the "look" of a good breeder in my mind's eye.  The information that it does show SA traits under some conditions with regularity immediately suggests to me this is one for the "ledge" group.
 
The list that includes DYNAMITE and BLACKOUT comes mostly from Mike Sutton.  These were parents that produced pods, but the seedlings had few if any SA's among them.  That is significant information.  If we identify others to add to that list, the possibility of identifying *why* few or no SA's appeared in the progeny goes up.
 
Diana's recent post about coat color genetics in horses is worth noting.  Our SA genetics endeavor may end up requiring an interpretation nearly or equally complex as what she describes. 
 
In the meantime, negative results are just as important as positive ones in trying to pin down genetic processes.  First we have to find out "what," "what kind' and "how many" before we can tackle the "how" and "why" of SA inheritance.
 
Neil Mogensen   z 7 western NC---- where we are under flood warning.  Just how can you have a flood on a hillside nearly three hundred feet above river level?  The only thing around here than can (and does) flood is the ROAD we take to get to town from here--and back again.  After five years of drought only broken this past summer, that would really be a shocker. 

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