Re: SAGE Project
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- Subject: [SpaceAgeRobin] Re: SAGE Project
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- Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 07:14:28 -0000
--- In SpaceAgeRobin@yahoogroups.com, <petalpusherpaul@b...> wrote:
"Do you know of any program to use that allows one to write the
parantages of Iris in trees?"--Paul Hill
Neil responds:
Mike Lowe, the new registrar, developed the program that creates the
pedigree charts on the HIPS website, including the THORNBIRD one
referred to. The problem for those of us that use PC's is that
Lowe's program is written for the Mac.
Mike tells me it could be adapted to Windows if one were adept in the
use of one of the programs which does such things--and the one he
named fell right through the sieve my mind is at times.
The way his program works begins with a database that has the cv
names along with several other pieces of data including parentage in
the simplest possible form--mama and papa, no brackets or
parentheses. All the seedling numbers in complex pedigrees are
treated just like named varieties, and where no seedling number is
given, Mike has a system for inventing a number.
When the user wants to create a tree, he or she simply types the name
into the box at the left side, and the program has a "look up" order
that builds the tree automatically until it runs out of data or
reaches a limit given, such as a certain number of generations.
The magic trick is to acquire the data in the first place. Keith
Keppel has been the magician in many cases to provide information
about the parentages of seedling numbers that are not in the Check
Lists. He has spent years gathering up stud books, digging into
other peoples records, old catalogs and whatever else may produce a
grain of information.
He's been around just about the same number of years I have, except
he hasn't taken any twenty-some year vacations from the involvement.
He knew people like Ben Hager, Walt Luihn, a couple generations of
Schreiners and so on personally and well.
Mike Lowe has inherited, along with the job of registrar, access to
Keppel's knowledge and library of data. They are both very generous
in sharing information, by the way.
Now, if you know someone who knows programming and can use those
tools--or at least the one of which I don't remember the name--I know
of at least two people who would give almost anything for a copy of
the re-worked program and database.
Human geneology programs like *Family Tree Maker* have very limited
use for us, as there is a limit to the number of spouses any one
individual can have, and no way to handle the gender issue when an
iris is fertile--and used--both ways.
Neil Mogensen z 7 western NC
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