Re: Re: [SpaceAgeRobin] Re: SA Seedling + SAGE

Hello everybody, First I gotta say that Mikes seedling is very very nice, love 
those appendages, and the color contrast with the standards.  
          Chris brought up SAGE.  I mentioned this fall that I made alot of 
crosses.  Much more than I intended, and I managed to get them all planted 
(or sent to others).  I ended up planting 144  in 1 1/2 gal pots of crosses I 
made, and 11 pots of crosses from Patrick, lot's of work.  I sent a good deal 
more seed to a local friend who wants to grow them.   I'm sure some of these 
crosses will be involving parents mentioned in SAGE. I'm not quite sure what 
Non SA parents were ever decided.  I used Quito, since someone (maybe 
Mike) mentioned it not to throw SA.  Crossed it with Honey scoop (twice), and 
mesmerizer. Too many to mention all of them and why right now.   A few that 
I'm really excited about: Solar Fire X Brazenberry (does great here 11buds, 
excellent all around), Eagle Control X Wintry Sky, Triple Whammy X Mythology 
(for the beards), Voltage X Solar fire, Ozark Rebounder X Grand Style (dark SA 
plic. Ozark rebounder is Hello Darkness X Epicenter). A pretty wide cross is:  
Thornbird X Wintry Sky, no telling how that will turn out?  Pretty sure I posted 
a list of all the crosses last fall.   The pots are outside getting their winter 
leaching and will be moved into a flower house in a few weeks.  We've been 
having a drought, so I've had to water them.  
I have some seedlings that had good growth and could possibly bloom from 
last years crosses, some look hopeful.  Most all SA on atleast one side.
            Later this month, I'm going to do a powerpoint presentation for my 
local club on SA iris, showing CV's that I've grown and seedlings and of 
course the Monsters.   It covers the last couple years and all the pics are one's 
I've taken, some were posted on here, and Iris photo's.  First time I've done 
something like this, nervous/excited.  Kinda got "volunteered" into doing it.  
  I can't wait for spring.  I saw a crocus coming up today and daffodils up 2".  
Too bad it was 14deg. this morning.  Already thinking about crosses this 
spring.  Hope the Blyth and Ghio stuff blooms. 
Will Warner
SW MO zone 6

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> From: sl5kn <sl5kn@yahoo.com>
> Date: 2006/02/13 Mon PM 10:21:18 CST
> To: SpaceAgeRobin@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [SpaceAgeRobin] Re: SA Seedling + SAGE
> 
> Hi Chris,
>   Thanks for explaining that list and the numbers.  Now, it makes much 
more 
>   sense.  There are several sections and quite a list of cultivars, so if people
>   tried to use all of them, then it could get to be a little overwhelming.  If 
people
>   who didn't have a lot used what they had, it still might add a little bit.  I'm
>   sure people will chime in on your idea once they get back reading again.  
After
>   looking at the list of the SA irises I purchased last year (before knowing
>   anything about SAGE), only MESMERIZER was on the list, and it is a backup
>   as you remembered.  So, it looks like I won't be able to help much anytime
>   soon, but it will be interesting to see others' results.
>   
>   I live in Salt Lake, Utah.  We have had a mild winter here, unlike the Artic
>   area you are living in.  Sorry to hear about your Beech tree.  Hope you 
>   get things all cleaned up.  It sounds like it will be a while before the snow 
(ice)
>   all melts.  I doubt I can afford California either, but it sure does sound 
nice on
>   one of those cold days, especially when Mike Sutton is posting pictures of 
his
>   rebloomers.  
>   
>   By the way, in some of the old messages, I found a link to your
>   website.  It was interesting.  You had quite a list of crosses that it sounds 
like
>   gave you some success last year.  I particularly noticed your 
CONJURATION X
>   SPARTAN, and STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN X SPARTAN crosses.  How did those
>   seedlings look, or is it too early yet?  (I forget what year they were in.)
>   
>   David
>   
> 
> Chris Darlington <chrisdarlington@videotron.ca> wrote:                  Hello 
David,
>    
>   I believe the numbers beside each cultivar were the   ones in which the 
participants grew and voted for to use in the program.    As you know, there 
was 3 or 4 different sections involving many cultivars which   may be too 
overwhelming  for the average hobby gardener to take on.    This is why I 
suggested reducing the scope to possibly encourage more   participation.  As 
of right now, interest in the project seems to be   dangerously low and I'm not 
too sure many people made any crosses in the SAGE   directing this year 
using the suggested breeders.  Of course, as we all   know, planning crosses 
and actually getting the plants bloom   and pollinated is a completely 
different story.  My SAGE crosses   from last year involved MESMERIZER, which 
I believe is one of the backup   breeders.  I'll have to concult the document to 
be sure since my mind is   like a seive ;-)
>    
>   The scope reduction is just a suggestion of mine,   I'll wait for others to 
chime after they have a chance to read the post.    Many of the members are 
in no mail option.
>    
>   Where do you live David ?  We've had a lot of   snow North of Montreal but 
is continues to heat up and rain and then freeze   again.  My Irirses are sitting 
under about 2 feet of solid ice at the   moment.  I also had a huge Birch tree 
blow over on to the main seedling bed   so there's a lot of cleaning up to do 
but not until April when some of the snow   melts.   A move to California 
sounds fantastic,  count me in as   well.  One thing is for sure, I will NOT 
spend the rest of my like in the   Arctic like winter climate.  Whether I can 
afford to move to California is   a completely different matter ;-)
>    
>   Regards
>   Chris
>    
>    
>   From: sl5kn 
>       To: SpaceAgeRobin@yahoogroups.com     
>     Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:29     PM
>     Subject: Re: [SpaceAgeRobin] Re: SA     Seedling + SAGE
>     
> 
> Hi,
> I agree with Francelle.  I like all of them, or at     least almost, but don't 
have
> nearly enough room.  Seeing Mike's     pictures is very nice.  It makes a 
person
> want to try it himself just     to see what would happen.  Chris's goal of just 
trying
> get a seedling     with a SA appendage sounds about right.  But then, where 
would
> the     seedlings grow?  Oh, the woes of having fun. :)
> 
> Chris-Yes, it does     seem that it's been quiet for a long time.  Could you 
explain 
> what     you are thinking about SAGE by reducing the number of breeders 
to one 
> or     two?  Are there very many people participating now?  Would everyone     
just
> use those one or two in an effort to generate larger quantities of     
seedlings in
> order to compare results more quickly?
> 
> In going through     some of the old messages over the winter, I read an 
article by 
> Neil     Mogensen called the SAGE Review.  It was very interesting.  Is that     
the
> current SAGE plan?  What does it mean when it says the "list of     "1"s 
returned to
> Bill Burleson"?  I understood the list to mean to try     those highest on the 
list, 
> like Thornbird, first, but they also have     numbers after them like 12 for 
Thornbird, and 11 for Mesmerizer.  What do     these numbers mean?  
> 
> It's good to see people writing a little     again.  Only wish spring were 
closer.  
> Although, it's not too     far.  The medians under my south facing window 
are
> starting to send up     new growth.  :)  Maybe I should move to California, 
so I 
> could     get reblooms all winter long like     Mike?
> 
> David
> 
> 
> Christopher Darlington     <chrisdarlington@ca> wrote:    Francelle,
> 
> My       only goal from the begining was a very modest desire to breed any 
> old       seedling that had an SA appendage and I acheived that with flying 
> colors       last year due to a very early melt. The fact that many of them 
> were dogs       didn't bother me at all ;-)  It just gave me hope.
> 
> Ironically, I       did find a IB sized (don't like the little ones much) 
> non Space Age       seedling which I believe could be from Doctor No x 
Gnus 
> Flash that I've       fallen in love with.  I dug it up and separated it 
> with hopes that       I can work furthur with it and possibly use it for SA 
> breeding.        Somebody suggested crossing it back to Doctor No, but I 
> love it the way       it is now.
> 
> For my crosses this year, I have a very strange variety of       unusual 
> historics, Arilbreds and modern Space Agers that I got from       
> Superstition that I hope to cross together.  No I'm not necessarly       
> after modern form, I still interested in anything "different".        Yeah, 
> that grumpy guy (forget his name now) on Iris Photos might declare       in 
> ugly but that's ok, I find him funny.  
> 
> As for SAGE, it's       been very quiet on the topic for a very long time.  
> My first       thoughts would be to dramatically reduce the scope of the 
> experiment to       just a few crosses with only one or two breeders to 
> allow more people to       participate to start with.  Anybody have any 
> thoughts about this       ?  
> 
> Chris
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