[SpaceAgeRobin] Re: HYB: Arilbred SA's
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- Subject: [SpaceAgeRobin] Re: HYB: Arilbred SA's
- From: "irischap" i*@netscape.net
- Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:41:17 -0000
I found the picture in Garden Iris.
I couldn't find the reference re multicellur beard hairs but
remember it was in a list of distinguishing features of various
groupings of iris and arils and Eupogons were both listed as having
multiceluar beard hairs.
Under the microscope the AB beard hair had many knobs, as in GI
picture , but was multicellur the same way as bearded iris, only
slightly narrower but same cell count in width of beard.Cell
stucture in beards seem to be the same as flower petals.
It takes some time to prepare slides for viewing so can only find
time to do a few every couple of days. Would like t ohave the time
to do more. Some interesting things. Wish to have more samples
before saying anything, but some possible explinations for a few
genetic phenomenon can possibly be explained through cell structure
differences.
Chuck Chapman
--- In SpaceAgeRobin@yahoogroups.com, "Neil A Mogensen" <neilm@c...>
wrote:
> Chuck, I don't remember where I picked up the info about
unicellular hairs
> in arils, but the reference was to the pure aril, not the hybrids.
>
> I have never had access to a microscope, but do remember that in
CGW's I
> grew, the beards did resemble the Eupogons somewhat more than they
did the
> pure aril stock.
>
> The pure arils I had were either Regelias (stolonifera and
hoogiana) or
> RC/OG type hybrids on the order of Teucros and the like. I also
had some of
> the diploid White hybrids like Oyez, one that started with a P (I
can't pull
> the name up right now--something like Present?), plus the grand
old Willam
> Mohr. I kept daubbing pollen on it for several years and never
got a seed,
> or perhaps got one that never germinated.
>
> I couldn't keep White's Joppa Parrot through Idaho winters, and
would
> usually lose about a third of Capitola every year, but the
survivors
> increased so happily that my stock steadily increased. In order
to get
> pollen, I had about a sixteen foot row of it for some years, reset
annually.
> Ib-mac didn't like my winters either, so it never grew enough to
play with.
> I raised a lot of Capitola babies and introduced one--and got the
only award
> I've ever had, an HM.
>
> I also grew for several years the three-way triploid of
> Eupogon-Regelia-Oncocyclus the name of which I can't pull up at
the moment
> either. I vaguely have a notion it was a Kalifa something or
other. It
> was one of C. G. White's as well
>
> I've been having this problem more than usual this past
week....age,
> decrepitude or just plain sticky file drawer in my proper noun
memory
> storage.
>
> I found your comment that the arilbreds did have multicellular
hairs. Do
> they resemble the Eupogon ones?
>
> The material I had I think was in *Garden Irises,* and had an
illustration.
> The Eupogon beard hair was a baseball-bat shaped affair, large end
to the
> top, the aril one a thin filament of straight form, arising from
the basal
> surface cell as an extension. It had no diameter change through
its length,
> and had short spikes all over its length in all directions. The
oncocyclus
> beard pad is quite wide and diffuse. I believe the regelias,
which of
> course had beards in the base of the standards as well as on the
falls, had
> a beard structure the resembled the Eupogons a bit more--not so
diffuse, but
> very different looking from Eupogon beards.
>
> Just eyeball, no microscope, plus some published stuff.
>
> Neil Mogensen z 7 Reg 4 western NC mountains
>
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