Christian,
Thanks for posting this info, VERY interesting indeed. I'd love to
take you up on your offer to trade plants but we would have cross
border issues to deal with. I used to freely ship rhizomes to the
States labeled as bulbs but I don't know if things have changed
dramatically or not in the last few years.
I tried to order from Riverview once a few years ago but wasn't
comfortable with the lack of customer service. They would need to
hire somebody to take care of communications to address specific
customer concerns. Well, that was 4 or 5 years ago, maybe things have
changed. They have a real treasure chest of forgotten classics that
I'd love to choose from. I'd love to get a start of Clematis one
day.
I'll also keep my eye out for Fibrated Space, sounds very
interesting.
Chris
--- In SpaceAgeRobin@yahoogroups.com, christian foster
<flatnflashy@...> wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> I can tell you which flatties have worked for me so far. As a
general rule "all" flats are pollen sterile by virtue of not having
anthers. The flats that I have seen produce pollen are:
> Judy Mogil (I think)
> Unfurled Flag
>
> The flatties which have set pods for me are:
>
> Six Pack
> Rhythm
> White Parasol
> Little Freak*
> Judy Mogil *
> Unfurled Flag*
> Pom Pon Two
> Clelmatis
> *being the most reliably fertile
>
> Either Flopsy or No-top or both have set pods which rotted due to
water held in the bloom. Amarylis has the same problem and possibly
Pom Pon Two.
>
> If memory serves, New Perspective, and Gazoo are rumored to be
both pollen and pod fertile, but I don't have either yet so can't say
for sure. Doubt either would advance a SA line.
>
> For a flat SA strain I believe that Fimbriated Space and sibling
Free Space will be critical because they have a very high "dosage" of
flat in their pedigree. (FimSpace has the overlapping style seam I
mentioned yesterday.) Pom Pon Two and Cut Crystal,pod mates of Pom
Pon One - which is described as having flounces-, should also play
key roles. The Rudolph intros also add in rarely seen plicata genes.
>
> I think all of the above mentioned are availiable through
Riverview, although not all necisarily in the same year. Oh, and
Riverview just intro-d a new flat...two years ago... which I think
has SA genes.... Tugs the Heartstrings. (If it's not Tugs with the SA
genes then it's something Moonscape intro from Argyle Acres about the
same time) I have two plants labeled Tugs but only one has so far
bloomed for me, and it was an imposter.
>
> So now you know practically everything I know. Race ya! lol
>
> Christian
>
> I have had one seedling to bloom from Fimbriated Space X
Thornbird which was traditional in form and did not show SA traits.
I think it was stunted by the freeze and I wouldn't expect it to show
SA its first year since TB didn't. So as yet I don't have any proof
of my pudding... or is it pudding for my proof.
>
> I have a few other crosses that might be indirectly relevant but
none to bloom yet.
>
>
> Jim Rohrer <jrohrer31@...> wrote:
> Hello Christian <I was wondering if you had tried
crossing the flatties with the S A,? This interests me and I wonder
if you or Chris could tell me which of the flatties are either
both pod or polin fertle .. I have quite a few S A I would like to
experiment with .in this regard All so which supplier would you
reccomend .? Jim Rohrer
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