Re: Deer!! Help Needed!

Dear Stan the cheap and lazy gardener: here is some info that I'm sure a
cheap and lazy person will be happy to know : it's the ammonia in the repel
that repels them. For a REALLY cheap way to repel deer (and many other
plant-munchers, BTW) just buy a giant size botlle of cheapest household
ammonia, not the sudsy kind I wouldn't think, but maybe it doesn't matter,
and dilute into a spray bottle with water. Spritz on the leaves and there
you go. You might want to experiment with different combinations of
concentrations, and try on a leaf or two first to be sure it doesn't damage
the plant. You could add something stinky like garlic or tea-tree or
citronella oil, too, to repel also aphids and moths, if you want a real
all-around every pest repellent.

Denise McCann Beck
Coastal British Columbia
USDA zone 7 Sunset Zone 4

-----Original Message-----
From: pattie@juno.com <pattie@juno.com>
To: veggie-list@eskimo.com <veggie-list@eskimo.com>
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Deer!! Help Needed!


>     The only thing that has worked for my garden has been
>a 7 ft. electric fence completely around the garden.  Anything,  outside
>of the fence gets eaten by Whitetail Deer.    I have been trying to
>grow seedling trees around the property for years but they just
>didn't seem to grow very fast.  It took me years to realize that
>the deer love the tender new growth each year!  I bought
>a spray bottle of "Repel" and sprayed everything that
>the deer could reach with it last Spring.  Amazing results!
>The little trees and shrubs doubled in size last summer.
>I reapplied whenever I felt worried.  (not very scientific, but
>very satisfying).  This spray says it cannot be used on
>human edible veggies.  The deer still go up to the seedlings
>and lower tree branches in the spring and maybe taste it
>a little, but I have not seen any damage at all.
>     The name of this stuff is    REPELL     it says it is a "repellent
>for deer, squirrels, dogs, cats and other chewing , gnawing, nibbling
>animals."  For those of you who know about such things;
>ACTIVE INGREDIENTS
>  Benzyldiethrl [(2,6 xylyl carbamoyl) Methyl] Ammonium Saccharide  .065%
>
>Thymol...................................................................
>..................................       .035%
>  Inert
>Ingredients..............................................................
>...............             99.90%
>
>It is manufactured for:  Security Products Company
>                                          A Division of Farnam Companies
>Inc.
>                                          301 E. Osborn Rd.   Phoenix  AZ
> 85013
>
>If I remember right it was a bit pricey at about $12.00 US for 1 Quart,
>but I will definitely buy it again as necessary.
>
>     The current electric fence is actually my second fence.  The first
>one I made the mistake of putting the wires too far apart.  The
>deer learned how to jump through the wires, and of course, since
>they were airborne when they touched the wires, they wouldn't
>get shocked.  Also, the rabbits learned the same trick about
>jumping over the single low wire I put up to discourage them.
>Now I have three low wires, about three inches apart, just above
>the ground and another wire every 12 inches.  Last year
>this system worked perfectly.  The deer just walk by my
>garden and ignore it.
>
>Stan         the cheap and lazy gardener
>              Boulder, Co       zone 6
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