Fwd: Re: white fly control

>Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:20:39 -0800
>To: for-pac <for-pac@cdr3.com>
>From: Lorraine Hoag <grdnr4u@syix.com>
>Subject: Re: white fly control
>
>You are absolutely right. White flies are stinkers to try to eliminate and
in fact my friend never did claim to get rid of them all. It was just a
reduction of the numbers of white fly and practically no damage to plants
in her green house.
>Don't forget they lay those eggs on the underside of leaves......very hard
to spray sometimes.
>Our county did a volunteer experiment with the Encarsia Formosa wasp, I
think thats the one you were thinking of, and it has seemed to be working
in some areas. Mine in particular. I placed the little cards around my
garden, this was two years ago now. and I also removed the host plant
Lantana.The combination has been successful so far. No white fly. Of course
you are not allowed to spray any insecticides during the experiment as it
would kill the tiny wasp. (they are only the size of a speck )
>If I do see any white fly next season, I will try the pepper spray.
>Don't think I can be part of the experiment any longer and I would have to
buy the Encarsia. Drat!.  
>For more information call your local Cooperative Extension and maybe reach
a master gardener like me.
>L
>
>At 09:36 AM 12/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>-- [ From: for-pac * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
>>
>>We have had problems of those pesky things too. We've used the best of
>>chemicals controls and the simplicity of sticky traps, all of which had
>>mixed results.
>>
>>Its really understanding the lifecycle of the whitefly that gives the best
>>opportunity for control. They lay eggs constantly, and although the sticky
>>traps catch many of the adults, a day or two later, there are at least as
>>many new ones. To continually keep the cycle going reduces the productivity
>>and joy of growing stuff like peppers.
>>
>>There is a biological control, a predatory bug, but I can't seem to find any
>>info. on them.
>>
>>The white fly does well in moist hot conditions, and they prefer certain
>>plants (like peppers), so what we did, is when the peppers were big enough,
>>moved them out of the greenhouse, used Safers Insecticidal Soap every day
>>for a week to knock out emerging adults, and use sticky traps to monitor
>>population build-ups. They are a tough one to control once they going, and
>>the simpler less chemical apporach is the best way to go. 
>>
>>That's our two-cents worth.
>>
>>for-pac
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>>
>>Date: Tuesday, 29-Dec-98 03:23 PM
>>
>>From: Lorraine Hoag            \ Internet:    (grdnr4u@syix.com) To:  
>>veggie-list@eskimo.com   \ Internet:    (veggie-list@eskimo.com)
>>
>>Subject: white fly control
>>
>>I know this is out of season but am preparing an article for the master
>>gardener newsletter and thought I would pass on the information. One of our
>>master gardeners is an herb farmer and sells at the local farmers market. In
>>her green house she has found pretty good control of her white fly problem
>>by placing the problem plants in a circle, surrounding the plants with
>>yellow sticky traps then spraying them with pepper spray. She buys the
>>pepper spray from Burpee catalog as she must account for any spray she uses
>>to the state and it is easier to be able to use a product name. However you
>>could probably make a pepper spray yourself.  When she sprays the pepper the
>>clouds of white fly rise up and are caught on the sticky traps. She has to
>>change traps occasionally and of course does it more than one time. She
>>feels it is worthwhile.  I think this is a pretty snazzy way to rid plants
>>of the horrid white fly. She and I both are using neem for other insect
>>control with mixed success. It is a product that must be applied more than a
>>couple of times also but we feel we want to stay as organic as we can.
>>
>>
>>
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