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Re: Roses, disease resistant


 Wow, who would have thought I would be making suggestions, instead of
asking for more help? :-)
 We have a pink tall shrub rose given to us by a friend. It has a wonderful
fragrance, fruity, rather than heavy. It's extremely disease resistant,
only the bottom 1/4 is naked. (In our hot and humid climate, that qualifies
as 4 stars. In comparison, the small Zepherine Drouhin is already 3/5
naked) I'm still trying to ID this one.
 I'm going to try more cuttings with your suggestions. The few cuttings
I've tried so far haven't worked.

 Another rose from Lowes (local megamart), of all places, is a pink bloom
with white stripes. I believe it was called berries and cream. It was sold
as a short climber.
 I'm redoing the 'rose' garden, so this 3.5 foot, well bushed plant has
been sitting in its 3gal pot for a month now, part shade, temps in the 80's
and 90's, 'mostly' reliable watering, and it had 2 new (smaller) blooms
this past week! Still has every leaf it arrived with. (With my luck, it has
been given a systemic pesticide, I'll probably see something completely
different next year.)
 In any case, I'm pleasantly amazed with it. I bought it on impulse, as a
present for my wife.

 There is a link I've been learning from for several weeks now, it's got
great information on old garden roses.
 It's called "Yesterday's Rose: A Tribute to Old and Old-Fashioned Garden
Roses"

http://www.halcyon.com/cirsium/rosegal/

 A recent(?) article in one of the garden mags, either Fine Gardening /
Horticulture / Country Home's Country Garden, profiled a lady who lived in
Houston(?) Texas. Apparently she relied on the China and Tea (Not to be
confused with hybrid tea's) classes of roses.
 Bourbons and one other group (I REALLY wish I could find that mag!) were
said to be highly suseptible to blackspot and powdery mildew.

 We could export blackspot as a marketable crop. Powdery mildew is a
problem on some of our crepe myrtles, but the hybrid tea rose leaves fall
from the black spot before the PM has a chance to do anything. :-/

 You really need to try some of the dark pink "flower carpet" roses. We've
been growing them for 3 years now, they are outstanding! Dark green glossy
leaves, lots of blooms till frost. Almost completely disease resistant.
 We started with 8 of the 1gal pink pots on a clearance sale. The plants
(what was still alive) were about 8 inches tall and 10 inches around. They
are now 4 feet around and 2-3 feet tall. Absolutely wonderful. They come in
white and pale pink as well, haven't tried those varieties yet.

 Almost any of the rugosas (thorn monsters from hell) will do well. Theresa
Bugnet (Bo-Nay) (or, just ask for the "bug net" lady  :-))) is a taller
shrub with wonderful fragrant pink flowers. I can't remember the name of
the other one I planted. It has a bright purple/pink flower, wonderful
fragrance and is slightly shorter and a more full bush than Theresa Bugnet.
It starts blooming about a week after Theresa Bugnet.
 They both get a touch of PM, but the guide that came with the roses said
they do better without spraying.

Hope this helps

Matt Trahan  <matttrahan@ecsu.campus.mci.net>
USDA zone 8, AHS heat zone 7, Sunset zone 31, northeastern N.C.

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