Re: Tree ID needed

Thank you Mark, Diana and Nancy...it appears that what I have is
black gum, tupelo - Nyssa sylvatica.  At least I think it must be.  I
know it's not paw paw or persimmon.  The first I'd love to have and
the second I've got a lot of.  It's also not shingle oak as I have
that also and it's quite different.

I did find a web site, due to the good suggestions, that shows a
'fan' of leaves, albeit green and not in fall colors, that is just
like what I was seeing:

http://www.fw.vt.edu/dendro/dendrology/syllabus/nsylvatica.htm

It also shows the different leaf shapes mine has - all the other
sites with leaf shapes only showed the longer, narrower leaf, so I
figured my tree couldn't be Nyssa.  I think the buds shown on the
Virginia dendrology page also are very close to those on my
samples..a tad larger, but that could be due to age.

The only sort of doubt in my mind is that both this site and Tim (off
list) said that the pith of the twigs/branches should be diaphragmed
and my dissection didn't really show this feature.  Of course, I only
took a very small twig to practice on because I really hated to cut a
larger branch from my baby tree...the only one whose branches I can
reach....and maybe it was too small or young to really show the pith
properly.

I'm going to try to remember to look at these trees in early spring
to see if there are flowers and they look like black gum flowers.

Once again, many thanks to all of you for putting me on the right
path here!

Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
mtalt@clark.net
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> From: Mark Stephens <markws@one.net>
> Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 7:49 AM
> 
> Hi,
> 
> based on fall leaf color, shape of leaf, and to some degree the
buds, I 
> would guess Nyssa sylvatica (Tupelo, Black Gum).  However, you
mention 
> leaves in a fan shape near the tip and that makes me think of oaks,
perhaps 
> Shingle Oak?
> 
> 
> - Mark Stephens (markws@one.net)
> - Fairfield, OH (sw, zone 5)
> - BWH #25845
> - http://backyardforest.org
> - http://gilmore.pond.org
> 
> 
> At 05:21 AM 11/6/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >I've got a that I can't ID.  Have put some leaf, twig and bud
scans
> >on the web:
> >
> >http://mtalt.hort.net/unknown/unknown-tree.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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