Re: [Aroid-l] Philo. seed from S. America

**V* S* <s*@email.uc.edu>**

Julius,

 I am very glad that you have opened this question because I also

was a participant in the Philodendron sp seed purchase from Alvim

Seidel. However, as you and most others by this time, know, I am hardly a

grower. I wanted the seeds for my study of the acids of the seed lipids of

Araceae, and this seemed like a good way to get many species analyzed. The

seeds I used were all shared with others --- I used only seed from packets

which others were to grow.

 The analyses went very well and most of the seed gave very very

similar (identical ?) results. At first this seemed very good but after

the first time that someone raised a question about the true identity of

the seeds, it became evident that my results were fine for showing the very

close similarity of the seed lipid acids in the genus but they couldn't be

related to species.

Now however, if some of the growers who played with these seeds can relate

certain ones to the real names, my data may be more useful than I had thought.

 So, if those who played with these seeds had success in

germinating and growing-on the plants to identifiable names, which can be

related back to the names under which the seeds were obtained, I would very

much like to hear from you. It would be very helpful.

Warm regards,

Vic

Victor G. Soukup PhD
Herbarium
University of Cincinnati
At 01:19 PM 4/28/2007 +0000, you wrote:

Dear Friends,

I would like to 're-visit' the issue from several years ago when we (or at

least some of us) sent money and ordered what were supposed to be seeds of

several scarce Philodendron species from a Company in S. America. As we

may recall, some of these seeds that were labeled as P. saxicolum and P.

adamantinum germinated and grew, but most turned out to be Philo.

bipinnatifidium (P. 'selloum') or something VERY close to this species.

Other vining species of Philodendron grew, and appeared in fact to be what

they were labled and sold as.

I have been trying to get information from other folks who ordered and

grew these seeds, and have at least ONE report of plants that grew from

seed labled as P. saxicolum that are NOT P. saxicolum, but also are NOT P.

bipinnatifidium ("selloum")!!! They are now blooming, and the report is

that some of the spathes are smaller than 'normal' and somewhat deformed,

which might indicate a plant of hybrid origin.

If anyone has plants that they can identify as being from this Company,

please give us a report, or better yet photos of what they grew up to be!

Thanks in advance,

Julius Boos,

WPB,  FLORIDA

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