Lysichiton Americanum Query

Hello to everyone,

   I sent the above questions to Greg Ruckert in hopes of finding some
answers to the Lysichiton seed collection I am attempting to make.  Greg has
no personal experience with this species, but is hoping to hear from the list
too, as he will be recieving some of the seeds.  He is sending me what
information he has via snail mail, and has suggested that I pose the
questions to the list.  I believe the Lysichiton seeds that I bagged in the
field are very close to being ready to harvest, and may need immediate
attention.  According to information from from one source, the seeds are only
viable for a short period of time.  Here is the forwarding note I origianaly
sent to Greg:

>>>>>Dear Greg,
   I just checked on the Lysichiton infructescences the other day, and would
like to ask some questions.  Did you have a chance to look at the information
you talked about from Roger Knutson, Professor Emeritus of Biology at Luther
College in Decorah Iowa?  Here's what I found at the site.  The
infructescences are beginning to fall to the ground, and the peduncles look
like they are turning yellow at the base, which might indicate that they will
soon separate from the mother plant.  The fruit is still very green, not
looking like ripe fruit at all, but there was one infruct. that had been torn
apart (coon, or bear...I wonder what might want to eat them?)  I gathered up
part of it, and disected it further.  There were nice large dark seeds here
and there in compartments throughout the spongy substance they were locked
into...I don't know how to describe that part.  I took them out of their
sponge and when I got home, I dropped the seeds into water and let them be,
and in less than an hour they had oozed out a gelatin-like substance,
(something like what Julius describes of his Urospatha seeds, another water
dweller).  This would indicate that if the infruct. had been exposed to
water, they would be going through the process of seperating from the
infruct. (and each other).  They are lying on almost dry ground right now.
 I'm wondering if they ever do change to another color indicating ripeness,
or if they might actually be ripe now.  I washed some of the gelatin stuff
off of the seeds, but left them in the water. What I need to find out is when
they might actually ready for harvest....going both by their appearance, and
by the surrounding circumstances. If they require cold weather to germinate,
they may go ahead and separate now and not germinate until next spring, but
if they can germinate in mild drier weather, they may be ready now.
 According to Proff. Knutson's notes that you mentioned earlier, the seeds
are short lived, and should be ready as soon as they are ripe.  The main
question here is....are they ripe?<<<<<

If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated.  If anyone else would
like some seeds, just let me know via my e-mail add. If there is no
information on this species out there, I will do the best I can using my own
judgement.......albeit not good.

Thank you in advance,
Sue Zunino  


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