I see your point. Perhaps Steve Marak and those that
maintain the achieve of Aroid l could consider new ways to improve that
database. I use it all the time since I can often find accurate
information from past members who are no longer with us or don't often post
today. Plus I can find all the posts from our resident botanists.
Some of those members who have passed on were among the most knowledgeable the
society has ever had but their explanations live on through the
One suggestion to increase membership I have offered, and
hope others will pick up and implement, is for those of us who operate any sort
of aroid website to promote the IAS via your site. I sought
permission from Dan Levin when he was president along with that of Tricia Frank
to add over 100 links to the IAS on my own site using the IAS name and
logo. The search engines pick up on that and more than one entry point to
the International Aroid Society website and membership page is presented to
anyone who searches for "aroid society" or any similar term. Since I use a
tracking service I can "see" how many people click on the link, I just have no
idea what action they take once they shift over to the IAS site. I am
always hopeful they elect to join! I see at least 10 or more individuals
daily take a look at the IAS site directly from my site.
I would encourage anyone who maintains a plant website to
promote both Aroid l and the IAS. Our society needs a constant supply of
new members and I see it as the obligation of the membership to promote
our group. If we are not all suggesting others join, the membership
will remain either constant or begin to decline.
I am always interested to hear from any member who can offer
better suggestions as to how we can make the IAS grow. So your suggestions
are certainly valuable.
I too enjoy the "chit chat" where people can post information
that is instantly available. I personally elected to leave the UBC
forum. There are some really good people on UBC but there are also
those that love to try to stir up trouble. That was probably not a good
move on my part but I've received more than a few personal emails from others
who have tried to provide good information and became tired of being told their
information was not accurate even when it came directly from a scientific
Perhaps a second "instant post" Aroid forum that works in
conjunction with Aroid l could be considered. At least that way, most of
the participants would already be seeking aroid information and be less
concerned with "posies and daisies".
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] One problem with
IAS - Discussion Forums
I think people misunderstood my point
I didn't say you couldn't search the past aroid list
what i meant was that from the general google search
engine, there does not seem to be a way for general people to find
subjects in aroid-l..try it....
this is why i think many people
don't even know there is a mailing list, or even an IAS.
it's a shame that all the past knowledge of in this mailing list cannot
be found in google.
I like the mailing list, i'm just wondering
if we could make them accessible to google so the genral public can
stumble on aroid topics in aroid-l.
--- On Mon, 7/14/08,
[Aroid-l] One problem with IAS - Discussion Forums
of aroids" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Monday, July 14,
2008, 10:31 AM
I've been able to access all the files back through
1996. Part of the trick is when you enter your search term make
it brief and tick off all years unless you know for certain the year
the post was made.
|#6 It's easier to follow the thread of a
conversation in discussion boards, unlike in mailing lists,
where the asynchronous, non-realtime nature of the thing makes
it hard sometimes to follow the thread of a
--- On Thu, 7/10/08, a san juan
a san juan <email@example.com>
problem with IAS - Discussion Forums
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008,
|I think one problem with the IAS is that it
does not have an "official" forum or discussion board.
People have tried to start real discussion forums once
in awhile (my own board, the current UBC board) but
they all peter out and die sooner or later (or
languish in a state of slow death), mostly because the
regulars on Aroid-L tend to avoid them.|
Aroid-L mailing list is supposed to address this, but
one thing I noticed is that the contents of the
archive are NOT available to google search engine. ALL
the enormous content from past times is thus hidden
from potential aroiders. I encountered this when
searching for P. x evansii information. All the hits I
got where from other websites, and I had to directly
go to the aroid-l site and do a second search there.
This means that aroiders have to continuously tell
people that there is such a thing as the IAS and that
it DOES have a repository of very useful information
in the Aroid-L archives.
Can we get it so
google can search the aroid-l archives?
aside, other plant groupings have very successful
discussion forums, for example, the Palm Society. The
advantage of discussion forums is (1) The layout is
MUCH better than email; (2) Topics are segregated into
useful sections (e.g. Growing tips, General
Discussion, etc); (3) You can upload permanent images
into the threads; (4) It is searchable by google; (5)
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