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Re: News from what remains of the Jungle

  • Subject: Re: News from what remains of the Jungle
  • From: "Ron Iles" <roniles@eircom.net>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:00:10 -0500 (CDT)


I will precis everything you kindly said with all the to represent
about Jungle problems and SOLUTIONS in 23(2) or 23(3).  Can you briefly add
more?   We need an article which suggests all the different channels to
attack to get the most positive ACTION to halt destruction.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Floral Artistry" <jjingram@pacbell.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list AROID-L" <aroid-l@mobot.org>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: News from what remains of the Jungle

| Ron,
| I think you have lost part of the equation here. Millions of plants are
| because people have become indignant and will not allow material to be
| collected. Millions of acres are slashed and burned every hour. You should
| read into this "burned" as being completely unavailable to anyone but God.
| There is no way we can bring this material back. The Brazilian government
| has adapted a red line law that is emphatic about wild material. They can
| not get it through their thick heads about the fact that it is their own
| ignorance that is destroying these plants.
| They need to adapt a collection and preserve mentality to at least remove
| plants after the trees have been slashed and move the material to growing
| facilities and grown on and when strong enough, sell to the world market.
| I'm not talking "white gringo greed" here. I'm talking practical solutions
| to save the very same plants you would like to have.
| And, just for your info, if it were not for greedy collectors in the early
| part of last century, Your garden would be a very boring thing. You would
| have none of the foods you enjoy, none of the trees you enjoy and none of
| the medications you so seem to think are the result of greed. Many of
| medications have saved millions of lives a year. I do not agree with the
| they are marketed and marked up unnecessarily but the fact remains that we
| have them.
| "I am beginning to wonder if I should ask expert native
| > BOTANISTS to collect and supply tiny samples for this Ark at FULL PRICE
| and
| when I visit their Countries to do so to observe, support THEM and help
| WITHOUT collecting. "
| There are very few expert native botanists. They just don't exist. I'm not
| being condescending. I'm being realistic. And another realistic note, in
| countries we are speaking of (Brazil in particular) the masses of poor you
| so wish to save are as ignorant about the value of the plants I wish to
| acquire as they are about what fair market value is. Their economy is so
| of whack that fair value/legalities/decent living is very confusing.
| And just FYI, it is very easy to get legal material out of Brazil. I do it
| every month. And each plant shipment is government documented, inspected,
| and approved. There is protocol and that must be followed. I have been
| to find several friends in Brazil who are as concerned about the native
| plants to be sensible to cultivate and export. All the plants that I have
| received are from cultivated material produced from years of growing from
| either seeds, cuttings, or division. I am in the process of setting up a
| growing area/production facility in Brazil to produce mass quantities of
| native flora, everything from Aroids, bulbs, flowering trees, and palms to
| gingers and heliconias. It is merely a matter of time to get the monies
| together. The Brazilian permits are all lined up and ready to go. This
| not only sustain Brazilian natives (if only in the cultivated sense
| their "natives" will destroy the wild forms) but also educate the
| as well as supply them will decent housing and income.
| John Ingram

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