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Re: Fw: Line breeding vs hybridization corn/maize.

  • Subject: Re: Fw: Line breeding vs hybridization corn/maize.
  • From: "Wilbert Hetterscheid" <hetter@worldonline.nl>
  • Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:17:23 -0500 (CDT)

There is a difference between fig wasps invading figs and human interaction
to get improved crops: humans are intentionally and result-driven, with a
mind pre-set to do it. Fig wasps, for all I know, do not seem to have a mind
of their own in doing their thing with figs. So symbiosis and plant breeding
are not the same thing. It is not so much the processes themselves but the
way in which they are "used" to experiment on organisms. So, what the fig
wasps do, fits evolutionary theory of adaptation and speciation as we define
that today but breeding plants intentionally leads to different things, that
do not behave as new and adapted species. It leads to entities that lose
their "integrity" (as forced upon them by breeding) as soon as they escape
again. Discussion flares up again when such escapees do find a way to
establish themselves, albeit deviated from their "cultivated" looks (Dingo
vs. dog). What to call these escapees? It's a gray area.


----- Original Message -----
From: <StellrJ@aol.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list AROID-L <aroid-l@mobot.org>
Sent: vrijdag 29 juni 2001 1:35
Subject: Re: Fw: Line breeding vs hybridization corn/maize.

> In a message dated Tue, 26 Jun 2001  1:54:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
"Julius Boos" <ju-bo@email.msn.com> writes:
> << Wish I had all my 'ducks in a row' AND all my literature in order when
> something like this comes up!   There was an article, in I believe a
> "Natural History' Mag just a few (3-5?) years ago, the author says they
> FINALLY discovered in Mexico the or one of the wild 'grasses' that was
> definitely the or one of the parents of maize as we now know it.>>
> Question:  If fig wasps were taxonomists, would they say figs are all
unnatural species, because these evolved in exclusive mutualisms with them?
That is, in essence, what we are doing when we call our cultivated crops
unnatural.  As I see it, all our domesticated plants and animals are simply
cases of mutualistic symbiosis; and just as a yucca compromises by losing
some seeds to feed a moth larva in exchange for propagation by said moth, so
our domesticates do the same.  I have no problem giving them the same
taxonomic status as any other symbiotic species.
> To bring this bacvk to aroids, does any genuinely wild population exist of
Colocasia esculenta?
> Jason Hernandez
> Naturalist-at-Large

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