Re: Chaos in Monstera names

**&* A* <a*@wp.pl>**

Hello all,

In the Tropicos Database you can find all synonyms, even so much outdated 
like Arum macrorrhizos or Calla aethiopica.
They do not differentiate which one are true synonyms and which are old 
names.

Marek

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "brian lee" <lbmkjm@yahoo.com>
To: "Discussion of aroids" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Chaos in Monstera names

> Dear Tom and the masses,
>
> Aloha.
>
> On an earlier post, I said that Monstera pertusa was a valid name...that 
> was based on the Tropicos listing.  On the KEW monocot checklist, that 
> name is considered Raphidophora pertusa.  Monstera and Rhapidophora are 
> genera that I would like to study in greater detail,however, access to 
> vouchered and correctly curated living collections are limited.
>
> Pete, are you familiar with Rhaphidophora pertusa? I mention this because 
> there is the discussion that many of the so-called Monstera pertusa are 
> really Rhaphidophora tetrasperma.  Now, I noticed that the diatribution of 
> Rhaphidophora tetrasperma and Rhapidophora pertusa are very distinct...the 
> former from peninsular Thailand and peninsular Malaysia, and R. pertusa 
> from southern India,Bangladesh,and Sri Lanka.  Can you comment on this? 
> Are they similar species...especially in the sterile state?
>
> Thank you all.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Leland
>
>
> --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat@mobot.org> wrote:
>
>> From: Tom Croat <Thomas.Croat@mobot.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Chaos in Monstera names
>> To: "Discussion of aroids" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
>> Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 10:52 AM
>> Marek:
>>
>>             Monstera friedrichsthalii is a synonym of A.
>> adansonii but
>> M. pertusa is not even a Monstera as I recall but rather a
>> Rhapidophora
>> (Pete is this not correct?). M. karwinskyi is a synonym of
>> M. acuminate,
>> not the other way around.  M. obliqua has lots of synonyms.
>>  Madison
>> lists 7 including M. expilata Schott but I intend to
>> resurrect the
>> latter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
>> [aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Marek
>> Argent
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:13 PM
>> To: Discussion of aroids
>> Subject: [Aroid-l] Chaos in Monstera names
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone authoritatively tell if:
>>
>>
>>
>> M. friedrichsthalii = M. adansonii = M. pertusa
>>
>>
>>
>> M. acuminata = M. karwinskyi
>>
>>
>>
>> M. obliqua has no synonyms
>>
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
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