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Re: the symptom of overfertilized Amorphophallus?

  • Subject: Re: the symptom of overfertilized Amorphophallus?
  • From: Ken Mosher <ken@spatulacity.com>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:18:09 -0400


Horses don't digest their food as completely as cows. You may get a lot 
of weeds from horse manure.  The best has been composted and then taken 
from the bottom of the pile where the weed seeds have been killed by the 


ju-bo@msn.com wrote:
> Dear All,
> Rabbit droppings sound good!  
> As a boy, my Dad and I would walk a large cow pasture and collect OLD 
> cow-pies where we could see the grass growing up through the cake from 
> below, or the seeds of Samman tree pods ("cow tamarinds") germinating 
> in the pie, this meant that it was safe to crumble these older manure 
> cakes around the roots of his prized Anthuriums.
> I`m also interested in learning if fresh horse manure is also a 
> ''safe'' or ''not hot'' fertilizer.  Back in 1959 I recall seeing the 
> old folks in the U.K. running out into horse parades passing by in the 
> streets of large towns, their coal scuttles and broom in hand, to 
> collect the just-fallen horse droppings to put fresh on their 
> flowering shrubs.  I was told that this was safe?
> Julius
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: TheTropix@msn.com
> To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:34:41 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] the symptom of overfertilized Amorphophallus?
> Hi Andras & everyone,
>   I have learned that rabbit poo is a great fertilizer that isn't 
> considered 'hot' like most manure fertilizers/soil conditioners.  I 
> have a couple of rabbits and tried some 'fresh' rabbit poo on a few 
> tomatoe plants.  Some were already doing well and some were not.  Now 
> they're all doing great.  I looked this up to send out to everyone 
> who's interested in the organic fertilizer concept.  The hay that 
> falls under the cages (and when I change out the bedding) is great, 
> too.  Mulch and fertilizer all in one!   I've since used it on 
> everything from veggies to Philodendrons and so on.  Hope this helps.  
> Most manures MUST be comoposted well until very dry, but are still good.
>                                           Great growing to all,
>                                                 Sherry
> /"Are rabbit pellets a good soil conditioner? /
> /*Answer:* / /Yes, rabbit manure is an excellent soil conditioner. Dr. 
> George Dickerson, Extension Horticulture Specialist, states that 
> rabbit manure is "high quality" soil conditioner. Since such manure is 
> accumulated most often in the case of pet rabbits, there is very 
> little likelihood of weed seeds in rabbit manure since the rabbits are 
> often fed prepared rabbit food which does not contain viable weed 
> seeds. He reminds us that there may be some weed seed in the rabbit 
> bedding material, but that should not be a major concern. /
> /Rabbit manure is also less likely to burn plants than some other 
> manures, so it can be added directly to the garden. However, as with 
> most manures, it can be composted with plant material waste before 
> being added to the soil. Manure contains nitrogen which helps with the 
> composting of plant wastes. /
> /Dr. Dickerson also recommends starting a vermicompost under the 
> rabbit cages. Get some "compost worms" often available at fish bait 
> stores as "red wigglers" and release them into a pile or bin of 
> bedding under the rabbit cage. Then you will have a source of good 
> manure, worm castings, and a source of compost worms for other compost 
> sites in your landscape. You can find more information on 
> vermicomposting at the NMSU Cooperative Extension Service web site: "
> //www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_h/H-164.pdf/ 
> <http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_h/H-164.pdf>/. /
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* ju-bo@msn.com <mailto:ju-bo@msn.com>
>     *To:* aroid-l@gizmoworks.com <mailto:aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:30 AM
>     *Subject:* [Aroid-l] the symptom of overfertilized Amorphophallus?
>     Dear Andras,
>     I am NOT an expert, but when I used to grow aquatic aroids, they
>     used to suffer "leaf burn'', and I was told that the man-made
>     granular AND some liquid fertilizers which contain ''salts'' were
>     the main cause of this problem.  I was given some liquid
>     fertilizers with a low-salt content, and advised to use them in a
>     weak mix more frequently, and to allow rain to 'flush'' the soil
>     as often as possible, I also used OLD cow manure and WEAK mixes of
>     fish emulsion fertilizer, this certainly improved the leaf burn
>     situation.  Perhaps you need to reduce the amount of fertilizer
>     you use?
>     I hope that this may work for you.
>     Good Growing,
>     Julius
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:30:42 +0200
>     From: asziranyi@gmail.com
>     To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
>     Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Is this the symptom of overwatered
>     Amorphophallus?
>     Hi All,
>     Thanks you for the responses. Let's see the answers:
>     - Sun burning and "peeling" - what means a type of mechanical
>     damage (As I am correct)
>     - Over fertilization.
>     Because all my plants are inside the flat and none of them are in
>     front of the window, the sun burst isn't my problem. As I know
>     there was no mechanical damage, too.
>     But I fertalized my plants a lot, so it seems to be the real problem.
>     Thank you again Agoston and Scott!
>     Bests,
>     Andras
>     On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Scott Hyndman <hyndman@aroid.org
>     <mailto:hyndman@aroid.org>> wrote:
>         Hi Andras,
>         This necrosis and burning of the edges of the leaf tissue is
>         typically a symptom of over fertilization.
>         Regards, Scott
>         On May 29, 2009, at 5:44 AM, Andras Sziranyi wrote:
>         > Hi All,
>         >
>         > After few years of inactivity now I have more time to care for
>         > Amorphophalluses. I have only one specie (but one plant has
>         > different stub - we can discuss it later) the A. konjac. I hold
>         > them inside our flat because I don't have garden.
>         >
>         > Few days ago I've found that the leaves started to searing.
>         Here is
>         > a picture about this:
>         >
>         > http://picasaweb.google.com/asziranyi/Amorphophallus?
>         > authkey=Gv1sRgCMDl9bvfjYbdrAE#5341174943982983570
>         > Could anybody know what wants the leaves tell me? :-)
>         >
>         > Thank you,
>         >
>         > Andras from Budapest, Hungary
>         >
>         > PS: Just imaging is here anybody from Hungary, too?
>         >
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