Re: Engler's Works Scanned for Members

**&* D* <p*@zoominternet.net>**

Hi Albert and Peter,

Thanks for the clarification about the date of copyright languishing.  Nice 
to know that the botanical journals still allow the author to retain their 
copyright by the way.  Seems silly that when a Ph.D. student wants to write 
their thesis in a biomedical field they have to get permission from the 
journal to reproduce their own figures in their dissertation to avoid 
copyright infringement.

Good growing all,

Dan
Gibsonia, PA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert M Huntington" <amh@ieee.org>
To: "Discussion of aroids" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Engler's Works Scanned for Members

> Dan,
>
>  Good question - all copyrighted works enter the public domain after some 
> amount of time - copyright in at least the US is not perpetual ( though 
> there are certain corporate interests which would either have you believe 
> that or like to change the law... ).  Works published before 1923, as 
> Engler's were, are no longer protected by international or US copyright 
> law at this time.
>
>  Though it is pretty much completely off-topic - Regarding copyright and 
> journals - most botanical journals that I am aware of stipulate that the 
> author grant a license to reproduce the article to the journal, but the 
> copyright ownership remains with the author, not the journal.  So in most 
> cases an author like Peter Boyce can give us permission to reproduce one 
> of his articles without involving the journal at all.  I am sure things 
> are far different in the medical field - medical journals seem to be big 
> business these days.
>
> --Albert
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Daniel Devor <plantguy@zoominternet.net>
> To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 3:39:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Engler's Works Scanned for Members
>
> Hi Albert,
>
> I'm not a member, but I wanted to know how this works with regard to
> copyright on old material like this?  Obviously, a new scientific document
> is typically copyrighted to the journal (all the medical journals that I 
> am
> aware of at least) and you can not scan and display copyrighted material
> like this without permission from the copyright holder to the best of my
> knowledge.  Even to reproduce your own scientific data is not allowed
> without gaining permission from the original copyright holder (the 
> original
> publishing journal).  I'm not trying to say it isn't all fine with the
> copyright, etc., but I'm just curious......hopefully it does not kill the
> cat :o)
>
> Dan
> Gibsonia, PA
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Albert M Huntington" <amh@ieee.org>
> To: "Discussion of aroids" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:40 AM
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Engler's Works Scanned for Members
>
>
>> Folks,
>>
>>
>>  Marc Gibernau has graciously made available to us scans on many of the
>> works of Adolf Engler ( 1844-1930 ) , a prolific writer on Aroid taxonomy
>> and morphology.  This comprises nearly 250MB of PDF files, which have 
>> been
>> cleaned, OCR'ed and uploaded to the members area on aroid.org.  Included
>> are some very nice line drawings scattered throughout, as well as the
>> original descriptions of many species.
>>
>>  I would encourage all members to log in to aroid.org today and check
>> these files out - even if you are not so good with Latin and German, the
>> books are truly interesting just for the pictures and familiar plant
>> names.
>>
>>  Not a member of the IAS?  Join us today in supporting aroid 
>> horticulture,
>> education and research at
>> http://www.aroid.org/society/joinias.php and get access to these and many
>> other wonderful publications.
>>
>> All the best,
>> --Albert
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