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Re: Off-topic: examples of botanical nomenclature (Steve Marak)

  • Subject: Re: Off-topic: examples of botanical nomenclature (Steve Marak)
  • From: "Marios Giannakoulias" <m_giannakoulias@hotmail.com>
  • Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 08:32:12 +0300

On regard to the second one, Ophrys sphegodes is a good example. The names 
fun is endless and the taxonomy chaotic, like every single individual 
population being described as a species, subspecies, etc. Having studied 
this species in the wild, I can tell you that even whole populations have 
been split into 3~4 "species"...
just check 
http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/advsearch.do;jsessionid=103A15A2A0BC84D74724D75F0A82786B

even on the last monography of the genus by Kew, I think they went 
oversplitting (but I m not a great believer of subspecies so I may be 
biased)

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> Aroiders,
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> This appeal for help is somewhat off-topic, so please excuse it (and
> delete it, if you're not interested).
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> I'm looking for examples of a couple of things in the area of botanical
> nomenclature, and I can think of no better group to ask than the people on
> this list.
>
> The first is the most complex example of a valid (and preferably,
> currently accepted) name, of any plant (i.e., not restricted to aroids),
> whether that complexity comes from ranks below species or multiple
> authorities or both. One of the best ones I have now is:
>
> The second question is what plant, again regardless of family, has the
> most synonyms? I'm aware of one poor orchid with, if I counted correctly,
> 55, but I suspect there are plants even more confused about their
> identities out there. For my purposes I'm concerned only with whether the
> name now appears as a synonym of the currently accepted name and not so
> much how it got there (i.e., whether it was validly published and later
> reduced to synonomy, nom. illeg., etc). I realize that whatever
> the answer is, it can change, but again that's not a concern for me at the
> moment.
>
> All help or pointers to good places to find the answer myself will be
> appreciated. I've spent plenty of time on Tropicos, IPNI, etc., but my
> oddball questions are not easily answered with those tools - or perhaps I
> just don't know how to ask them.
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> Steve
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> -- Steve Marak
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