Alistair: Thanks for your comments on the typhoniums. I am assuming by your comments that T. divaricatum and T. roxburgii look identical in flower from a couple of feet away and the only way to tell is to examine their sex organs when in flower. Is this correct? Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, NC 27603 USA Minnimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-100F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdel.com website http://www.plantdel.com phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 662-0370 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent