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RE: need info. on other community gardens/ WOW!


I just checked out your website http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~ehgarden. I must
tell you that my NYC cohorts are extremely envious  of your space,
facilities, etc. I can see that you do have some work, cash and  volunteer
requirements for garden members, but  you need to get folks to do more. Your
guys are so fortunate.

We just can't get over your garden. When you turn on your tube around X-mas
and see the tree lit up in Rockefeller center? Well, Rockefeller Center is
about the size of your garden. Our individual plots ( I'm not talking about
our public landscaped area) 108 of them are all raised beds ( French market
bio-intensive gardening) about the surface area of a queen sized mattress.

Lucky dogs,

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Honigman, Adam 
> Sent:	Thursday, February 24, 2000 11:15 AM
> To:	'David R. Shiffert'
> Cc:	'community_garden@mallorn.com'
> Subject:	RE: [cg] need info. on other community gardens
> David:
> The Eagle Heights Community Gardens is the largest and longest running
> community garden that I personally know of in the United States. Our NYC
> community garden http://www.clintoncommunitygarder.org is miniscule and a
> mere infant in comparison. 
> To be frank, you guys have been extremely fortunate to have a great
> landlord and so much space. I think that your governance problems are
> caused by the 750-1000 gardeners not realizing their amazing good fortune
> and feeling that the garden is a given, like sunshine. Getting grant money
> for governance from the University is not a good idea. The University
> might say, screw it and build a gymnasium on the garden land.  If the
> membership cares enough to have a community garden, then they have to make
> the sacrifice of time, or money to run it properly don't know if you
> charge fees for your 600 foot plots ( in NYC most people live in
> apartments of 600sq feet or less) but there should be a work or money
> requirement for these plots. From these fees, you could hire your own
> special projects coordinator for your children's project. 
> I belong to a steering committee for the CCG of 10-15 members ( we usually
> lose steering committee members by attrition)  that meets officially on a
> monthly basis throughout the year. We have a rotating chair, a record
> keeper and a treasurer because we do not have a president ( we avoid a
> cult of personality, assassination by garden shears, etc. that way). We
> have subcommittees of steering committee members and gardeners who handle
> specific projects ( the building of a new shed, bee hive, special events,
> children's story telling - gardening). 
> Bottom line: Your community gardeners need to invest more energy into your
> garden's community. Otherwise it just becomes a commons that University
> folks tend without a real sense of responsibility for others.
> Good luck. Tell me what happens,
> Adam Honigman
> Bowne Publishing Division
> 345 Hudson Street
> New York, NY 10014
> Tel: (212) 414-8933
> Fax: (212) 229-3421
> email: adam.honigman@bowne.com
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	David R. Shiffert [SMTP:drshiffe@students.wisc.edu]
> 	Sent:	Wednesday, February 23, 2000 11:43 PM
> 	To:	community_garden@mallorn.com
> 	Subject:	[cg] need info. on other community gardens
> 	Eagle Heights Community Gardens needs your help.  EHCG is an organic
> 	community garden that has existed on the University of
> Wisconsin-Madison
> 	campus since 1962.  Each year we have between 750-1000 gardeners
> 	cultivating our land, about half of whom are affiliated in some way
> with
> 	the University.  We have 456 individual garden plots, each one
> 	approximately 600 square feet in size.  We currently occupy about
> 6.5 acres
> 	of space.  To date, EHCG has been run each year by a committee of
> volunteer
> 	gardeners, with no paid members.  We are writing a grant proposal to
> the
> 	University to seek funding for a Garden Coordinator because we have
> never
> 	been able to follow through on any of the programming (for example a
> 	Children's Gardening Program) that gets underway during any given
> year.  We
> 	believe that we are one of the largest community gardens in the
> country,
> 	and one of the oldest continously operating ones, but we don't know
> for sure.  
> 	My questions for the wider gardening community are this:  
> 	1. How do we compare with other community gardens in terms of 
> 	a. the number of gardeners we serve (750-1000)
> 	b. the size of our plots (600 square ft.)
> 	c. the acreage that we occupy (6.5 acres)
> 	Your response is deeply appreciated!
> 	David Shiffert, EHG Chairperson
> 	909-D Eagle Heights
> 	Madison, WI 53705-1611
> 	H 238-7966
> 	drshiffe@students.wisc.edu
> 	www.sit.wisc.edu\~ehgarden
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