Re: [tb-cybergardens]: liz christy / green guerillas
- Subject: [cg] Re: [tb-cybergardens]: liz christy / green guerillas
- From: Adam36055@aol.com
- Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:01:20 EST
Steve - tattelah.....
Ya mean you DON'T have a law suit yet? This is a major change in modus
operandi for you guys. Let's hope you're actually doing something constructive here.
All of us take a real interest in the Liz Christy garden because it's such a
seminal place for our movement.
In all honesty, I figured if broke your chops enough, you'd come out of your
lair, rub your eyes, and start to try to justify GG' s existence and what
you've been doing to actually keep LC a sustainable garden in the midst of the
change that makes Manhattan such an interesting and volitile place to live,
work and garden.
I love seeing signs of sentient life from Green Guerillas - now could you
possibly manage to be helpful, not OBSTRUCTIVE in helping to work out a deal
between the the LIz Christy Gardeners, Avalon and the city, pretty please?
I have NEVER seen a developer actually COURT a community garden before. This
is a novel and rare experience and the usual delaying tactics will only sour
any kind of concessions Avalon might give.
Avalon's letter is AMAZING - they really want to work with the gardeners in a
very gentlemanly fashion. Could you help your charges at Liz Christy pull
out their thumbs and deal.
> Subj: [tb-cybergardens]: liz christy / green guerillas
> Date: 1/13/05 3:19:29 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time
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> hey cybergardeners -- a number of people have been forwarding messages, and
> have encouraged us to respond. so here goes:
> + green guerillas has no lawsuit in the works. i'm not sure where this rumor
> got started. the liz christy gardeners are doing what any smart group would
> do in this situation -- reach out to experts for help, advice, and
> assistance with negotiations -- that includes a lawyer, an architect, and an
> stating with great certainty on this list serve that GGs has a lawsuit
> pending certainly does not help the LC gardeners. and indicting this garden
> as never open and these gardeners as anti-community on this list serve does
> not help their cause either. readers of this list serve likely include
> people from the City and developers.
> + GGs is supporting the gardeners and they are making decisions as a group.
> the LC garden group is an eclectic mix of people - no one is hijacking the
> group with a particular agenda and you certainly can't characterize them all
> as aging hippies. but i'll let them respond if they choose. and everyone is
> free to agree or disagree with their decision to try to protect their garden
> and how they are going about it.
> + GGs is not going to get out front of the LC gardeners. we do not spend
> hours caring for the garden. the gardeners care for it. we will continue to
> support them in their efforts to protect and preserve it. this certainly
> opens us up to criticism -- we will take our lumps from people who believe
> our name and face should be out front.
> + i accept and welcome any and all criticism of me and of green guerillas.
> we don't strut around claiming to be the end all and be all of the community
> gardening movement in new york city. i do not believe that i am god's gift
> to the nonprofit world. i can always do better and GGs can always do better.
> we do our thing, we are one piece of the puzzle, and we are small in
> comparison to many of the other greening groups. i am truly sorry that our
> work is not up to snuff in some people's eyes. if folks would be willing to
> share criticism with me and with other GGs staff directly it would help us
> + the notion that we send "low level" staff people out to gardens is, i
> think, insulting to our two community organizers -- rebecca ferguson and
> hannah riseley-white. they are skilled organizers, they have strong
> relationships with gardeners all over the city, and they provide gardeners
> with assistance with organizing issues big and small. they are both
> community gardeners and rebecca is on the board of directors of the american
> community gardening association. everyone is free to characterize these
> folks any way they choose, but i've learned a lot from them. many community
> gardeners in neighborhoods like East NY, Harlem, Bed-Stuy and the La Familia
> Verde area of the Bronx (who are not on this list serve) appreciate their
> our number is 212.402.1121 and we all have cell phones -- rebecca and i are
> especially happy to discuss all of the above with you.
> steve frillmann
> green guerillas
> direct line: 212.402.1120
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