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RE: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #734 - 4 msgs

  • Subject: [cg] RE: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #734 - 4 msgs
  • From: Julie Samuels <jsamuels@openlands.org>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:19:25 -0500

Is this (worm castings fundraiser) another ploy to patent a natural product
in order to corner the market and charge patent fees for creating and using
the stuff?  Like the patents that the chemical corporations have on seeds?!
Julie Samuels

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Fund raising -- oh, really? (Alliums)
  2. RE: Fund raising -- oh, really? (Honigman, Adam)
  3. Wormcastings Insect Repellency, etc. (Carole Eddington)
  4. RE: Wormcastings Insect Repellency, etc. (Honigman, Adam)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:21:18 -0400
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
From: Alliums <garlicgrower@snip.net>
Subject: Re: [cg] Fund raising -- oh, really?

Carole wrote:
>
>    We  have a high quaility worm casting product which has just been
>classified as a biochemical pesticide and permission given to register
>as an insect repellency  from the EPA.  

Huh?  As someone who has done vermiculture for some time, could you explain
to the list just how this became a "biochemical pesticide" and how you
discovered it was an insect repellent.  Even more specifically, *which
insects* does it repel -- and how to you know this?

Considering the high N contect in worm castings and the fact that high N
fertilizer has been shown to be an insect ATTRACTANT as the plants rapidly
pump out tender succulent growth that your average non-beneficial insect
prefers to munch on, your statements (unless backed up by some serious
reseach data) seem counter-intuative at best.

>We thought that instead of going
>through the regular channels for distribution we would offer it as a
>fund raising activity for any community gardens that were interested to
>raise money.  

Excuse my East Coast intractability (where is Adam when you need him? ;-D),
but I smell fungus gnats (in-joke for the vermiculturists among us) -- I'd
like a WHOLE lot more detailed information about these products before
ANYONE on this list becomes a "distributor".

Just being a nasty, suspicious East Coast community gardener who never looks
gift manure -- oh, never mind! ;-D

Dorene Pasekoff, Coordinator
St. John's United Church of Christ Organic Community Garden

A mission of 
St. John's United Church of Christ, 315 Gay Street, Phoenixville, PA  19460


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Message: 2
From: "Honigman, Adam" <Adam.Honigman@Bowne.com>
To: "'Alliums'" <garlicgrower@snip.net>, community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: RE: [cg] Fund raising -- oh, really?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:50:15 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"

Come on...extra logical fund raising ideas are always an amusement -
chinchilla farms, etc. 

As Barnum said, there's a sucker born every minute. The idea is not to be
one of them.

Best wishes,

Adam Honigman

-----Original Message-----
From: Alliums [mailto:garlicgrower@snip.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:21 PM
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: Re: [cg] Fund raising -- oh, really?


Carole wrote:
>
>    We  have a high quaility worm casting product which has just been
>classified as a biochemical pesticide and permission given to register
>as an insect repellency  from the EPA.  

Huh?  As someone who has done vermiculture for some time, could you explain
to the list just how this became a "biochemical pesticide" and how you
discovered it was an insect repellent.  Even more specifically, *which
insects* does it repel -- and how to you know this?

Considering the high N contect in worm castings and the fact that high N
fertilizer has been shown to be an insect ATTRACTANT as the plants rapidly
pump out tender succulent growth that your average non-beneficial insect
prefers to munch on, your statements (unless backed up by some serious
reseach data) seem counter-intuative at best.

>We thought that instead of going
>through the regular channels for distribution we would offer it as a
>fund raising activity for any community gardens that were interested to
>raise money.  

Excuse my East Coast intractability (where is Adam when you need him? ;-D),
but I smell fungus gnats (in-joke for the vermiculturists among us) -- I'd
like a WHOLE lot more detailed information about these products before
ANYONE on this list becomes a "distributor".

Just being a nasty, suspicious East Coast community gardener who never looks
gift manure -- oh, never mind! ;-D

Dorene Pasekoff, Coordinator
St. John's United Church of Christ Organic Community Garden

A mission of 
St. John's United Church of Christ, 315 Gay Street, Phoenixville, PA  19460


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:19:00 +0000
From: Carole Eddington <eddington@lvcm.com>
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: [cg] Wormcastings Insect Repellency, etc.

Dear List members,

This is an excerpt from a recent press release by the worm casting
company.  I have more detailed reports if anyone is interested.

Insect Repellency:  Testing by California Vermiculture has shown that
specific production methods can give worm castings the ability to
provide insect repellency.  WORMGOLDŽ  has been shown to stimulate the
organisms (chitinase enzyme producers) in plants that work as a natural
repellants for a large array of insects.  The repellants increase to a
level that the insects find distasteful.   The insects then leave.  The
effectiveness has been seen for aphids, white fly, and other bugs that
feed on the plant juices.  Plants tested include: begonias, various
citrus, hibiscus, various houseplants, morning glory, roses, solanum,
and zylosma.  The number of successful applications now exceeds 10,000.
Ten nursery managers have independently confirmed the insect repellency
effect of WORMGOLDŽ.

Independent testing at Quail Botanical Gardens in Encinitas, CA, has
shown very strong indication that the repellency is effective for bark
boring beetles such as ipps and ambrosia beetles.  Seven various pine
trees with severe infestations were shown to be free of these beetles
within three months of a three part treatment using WORMGOLDŽ.  These
trees continue to be free of the boring beetles after six months. The
effect will continue to be monitored under academic protocol for at
least 24 months.  Boring beetles are a dominant cause of death of trees
around the world.   This research will be published in academic
journals.

Since WORMGOLDŽ has shown effective repellency for a large array of
plants, it was a natural extension to test for repellency of the glassy
wing sharp shooter passing the dreaded Pierce’s disease in the vineyard
industry.  Previous testing with several organic materials with worm
castings has shown positive effects for suppression of this plant
problem.  California Vermiculture is presently conducting an extensive
field test of this three-part application in the vineyards in Temecula.
This work is being done in accordance with academic standards for
technical publishing.

One element required for effective repellency of the root knot and root
lesion nematodes is in abundant supply in WORMGOLDŽ.  Conceptually, this
would be effective at solving the harmful nematode problem seen in the
production of strawberries, tomatoes, and other crops where Methyl
Bromide has been used as a nematode fumigating gas.  Methyl Bromide is
highly toxic and was scheduled for elimination from the marketplace in
January 2000.  A five year delay was given to find a solution to the
problem.  Our nematode research project is showing excellent progress.
The research by Dr. Elaine Ingham on the same application came to light
showing conclusive proof that worm castings can be used as an effective
means to solve the harmful nematode problem and also improve plant
health and production.

California Vermiculture has a patent application is in process as well
as an EPA bio-pesticide registration.  Also EPA applications are
in-process for the fungus control and nematode applications.

Sincerely,

Carole Eddington



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Message: 4
From: "Honigman, Adam" <Adam.Honigman@Bowne.com>
To: "'Carole Eddington'" <eddington@lvcm.com>, community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: RE: [cg] Wormcastings Insect Repellency, etc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:28:42 -0400
charset="iso-8859-1"

Carole,

I'm sure that you mean well - but I'm skeptical. This sales pitch smacks of
the $9.95 Ginsu knife that got dull and sits in the bottom of my silverware
drawer. 

Thank you for sharing this offer with us - undoubtedly others will examine
your product specs more closely. 

Me, I sell t-shirts, coffee cups, baseball hats and jars of honey with our
garden's name emblazoned on them as a fund raising modality. Admittedly it's
Luddite, but I didn't get into community gardening to get on the "cutting
edge".

Really, thank you for your offer. I also thought the personal computer would
remain a hobbyist item...

Adam 



-----Original Message-----
From: Carole Eddington [mailto:eddington@lvcm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:19 PM
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: [cg] Wormcastings Insect Repellency, etc.


Dear List members,

This is an excerpt from a recent press release by the worm casting
company.  I have more detailed reports if anyone is interested.

Insect Repellency:  Testing by California Vermiculture has shown that
specific production methods can give worm castings the ability to
provide insect repellency.  WORMGOLDŽ  has been shown to stimulate the
organisms (chitinase enzyme producers) in plants that work as a natural
repellants for a large array of insects.  The repellants increase to a
level that the insects find distasteful.   The insects then leave.  The
effectiveness has been seen for aphids, white fly, and other bugs that
feed on the plant juices.  Plants tested include: begonias, various
citrus, hibiscus, various houseplants, morning glory, roses, solanum,
and zylosma.  The number of successful applications now exceeds 10,000.
Ten nursery managers have independently confirmed the insect repellency
effect of WORMGOLDŽ.

Independent testing at Quail Botanical Gardens in Encinitas, CA, has
shown very strong indication that the repellency is effective for bark
boring beetles such as ipps and ambrosia beetles.  Seven various pine
trees with severe infestations were shown to be free of these beetles
within three months of a three part treatment using WORMGOLDŽ.  These
trees continue to be free of the boring beetles after six months. The
effect will continue to be monitored under academic protocol for at
least 24 months.  Boring beetles are a dominant cause of death of trees
around the world.   This research will be published in academic
journals.

Since WORMGOLDŽ has shown effective repellency for a large array of
plants, it was a natural extension to test for repellency of the glassy
wing sharp shooter passing the dreaded Pierce's disease in the vineyard
industry.  Previous testing with several organic materials with worm
castings has shown positive effects for suppression of this plant
problem.  California Vermiculture is presently conducting an extensive
field test of this three-part application in the vineyards in Temecula.
This work is being done in accordance with academic standards for
technical publishing.

One element required for effective repellency of the root knot and root
lesion nematodes is in abundant supply in WORMGOLDŽ.  Conceptually, this
would be effective at solving the harmful nematode problem seen in the
production of strawberries, tomatoes, and other crops where Methyl
Bromide has been used as a nematode fumigating gas.  Methyl Bromide is
highly toxic and was scheduled for elimination from the marketplace in
January 2000.  A five year delay was given to find a solution to the
problem.  Our nematode research project is showing excellent progress.
The research by Dr. Elaine Ingham on the same application came to light
showing conclusive proof that worm castings can be used as an effective
means to solve the harmful nematode problem and also improve plant
health and production.

California Vermiculture has a patent application is in process as well
as an EPA bio-pesticide registration.  Also EPA applications are
in-process for the fungus control and nematode applications.

Sincerely,

Carole Eddington



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