Pressure treated wood & kiwi vines.
- Subject: [cg] Pressure treated wood & kiwi vines.
- From: Alliums g*@earthlink.net
- Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 18:37:15 -0400
Sean C. Gambrel wrote:
Think "food source." We no longer have a groundhog problem because we bought a trap for our 74 year old African-American gardener. Groundhog is supposedly a Southern delicacy -- he and his buddies get together and eat everything he catches.We also believe we may have two groundhogs on the property, one being a very pregnant female (we think), so extermination is not as appealing as it once was - though it never really was in the first place.
Go back through the archives -- "pressure-treated" wood should really be called what it is -- "arsenic-bathed wood." Considering recent events in Maine, I'd think you'd all be a bit nervous about having arsenic anywhere near the general populace! ;-)So, PT lumber is all we can get donated, and in my opinion is probably OK (though obviously not most-desirable) for things like the toolshed, which we want to be long-lasting but cheap, and that don't come in direct contact with the veggies.
Also, these folks are donating their PT wood because in just a few short months, the law goes into effect that declares PT wood "toxic waste." So, by donating the wood to you, they can get a tax write-off instead of having to pay to have it placed in a hazardous waste landfill. So, don't be an enabler -- politely tell them what you can use instead!
A friendly co-worker has donated three mature kiwi vines (the hardy variety) to help us screen the "Water buffalo" trailer-tank theat we'll be using for water, and we're hoping to support these vines on a wooden T-shaped trellis of sorts, using what lumber has been donated - all is pressure-treated.
*Don't* do that!
That's why God created black locust -- and why in New Zealand, they use metal posts.At first I wasn't too concerned about people being in much contact with the wood, and I liked the idea that the trellis would last as long as the vines (which can fruit for up to 40 years).
But I am worried about the fruit being in direct contact with the lumber and also worried about toxic stuff leaching through the soil into the roots of the vine, because two of the vines will be planted within a foot of each support.
You should be! Your worries are completely justified.
Anybody know the liklihood of the nasty stuff leaching through the soil and being taken up into the plant via its roots?
Damn good.
Anybody know if the fruit (you eat these smaller, non-fuzzy kiwis whole, like a grape) that is in contact with this wood would retain any toxins?
Even better than above.
Considering that there is no "safe" level for arsenic consumption, I wouldn't risk my gardeners this way.Or can I just warn folks to wash the fruit before they eat it?
BTW, the best site for growing fruit is the following:
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dailey/byfg.html
Dorene Pasekoff, Coordinator
St. John's United Church of Christ Organic Community Garden
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