RE: Australian ferns

G'day Everyone

The reason I started this line was to find out what would be possible 
to acquire and grow without endangering these wonderful plants. I 
have no intention of taking any risks. I figured I would ask and see 
if someone would show me the limitations to my goal. And Peter did a 
great job in that regard and I thank him for it. I have been unable 
to find these ferns(where possible) anywhere in America and I think 
it could only help  to share these ferns with other competent growers.

Frondly Wayne


At 09:21 PM 4/6/2006, you wrote:
>Hi All
>
>Seems a lot of comment on this one, but we need to be ultra realistic, you
>can't get away from the fact that with Huperzia dalhousianum is especially
>unique, that it is now and has been on the endangerd list for some 
>time because
>of its removal from the wild over the past say 100 years or so.
>
>Then add to the equasion, it grows in a very specialised natural habitat,
>so if it were collected, it could not be kept growing because 'the habitat
>could never ever be recreated'.
>
>It is generally known from a few now deceased expert growers, this has all
>been tried many years before their time, without success.
>
>As for being grown from spore, even with the other species of Huperzia, these
>have all proved so far, to be impossible to grow from spore. So you can cross
>that off the list as well.
>
>As Peter said in an earlier email,it has been made illegal to 'even grow
>it' in an effort to stop anyone from taking a plant from the wild. In this
>case and a few others, legislation has been appropritely correct.
>
>I must say also, Peter Bostock is a hands on Botanist who is well respected
>in the Australian plant communities for his involvement with the former SGAP
>(Society for growing Australian Plants) now called, Australian Plants and
>is also their Leader of the Queensland Fern Study Group.
>
>
>Keith Rogers
>Mannum South Australia
>
>]
> >-- Original Message --
> >Subject: RE: [ferns] Australian ferns
> >Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:55:48 +0200
> >From: "Winter, Wim de" <Wim.dewinter@wur.nl>
> >To: <ferns@hort.net>
> >Reply-To: ferns@hort.net
> >
> >
> >If the entire population of a species goes through a single 
> individu bottleneck,
> >the loss of genetic variation will be such that from a conservational point
> >of view little has been gained beyond extinction. It's a good thing that
> >after such a rescue we can still admire representatives of the species,
>but
> >one might wonder whether it is still capable of functioning as a 
> true species.
> >
> >Wim
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-ferns@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On Behalf Of
> >Peter Bostock
> >Sent: Tue, April 04, 2006 23:47
> >To: ferns@hort.net
> >Subject: RE: [ferns] Australian ferns
> >
> >
> > Hi, Bob,
> >
> >...
> >
> >There are also increasing arguments about cost of protecting species
> >whose populations may have reached critical viability levels. However in
> >many cases, the only non-viable population for some ferns is zero, since
> >many have vegetative reproduction and a single plant can persist for a
> >very long time as rhizome growing ahead and dying off behind. Pteridium
> >springs to mind, but also Microsorum, Drynaria and many others in
> >Polypodiaceae, Thelypteridaceae etc.
> >
> >...
> >
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