Re: artificial trees

Hi to all,
    At Chicago they mused everything from wire and fishing line to hot glue gun
and foam insulation, which is quite sticky, and would fill spaces and provide a
good adhesion for plant substrates, and can be covered with sphagmun which it
will hold as well.  mBefore mthe plants cover the orange of the foam, it looks
like a fungus peaking out!  (It is formaldehyde based, and not good inside untill
it has cured for a while.)  Whatever works elsewhere will work on the PVC base.

cheers, Betty

kerogers@iprimus.com.au wrote:

> Hi Wim and others
>
> I have also used wire netting made into a 4 in round and filled with sphagnum
> moss or old willow roots to grow epiphytes.  This wire only lasts a few years,
> stainless would be better, but expensive.
>
> To use PVC as a strengthen tube, it would need to have some method to hold
> the sphagnum to the pipe.  Perhaps wire or stainless netting would do the
> job.
>
> Yes the PVC I mentioned is used here to grow strawberries and would be useful
> for small ferns too.
>
> Keith
>
> >-- Original Message --
> >Subject: RE: [ferns] artificial trees
> >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:17:54 +0200
> >From: "Winter, Wim de" <Wim.dewinter@wisl.nl>
> >To: <ferns@hort.net>
> >Reply-To: ferns@hort.net
> >
> >
> >Keith,
> >
> >The result of what you describe is much like the terracotta earthenware
> dovecots
> >that are commercially sold here as "strawberry pots" (see for shape, but
> >apparently different material http://www.potvis.org/Gallery_2_4.html). You
> >remind me that I still wanted to try them for fern use.
> >
> >The difference with the proposed method is that the plants only can crop
> >out from your predifined cups, at least, I suppose the won't grow over the
> >pvc outside. Also, the mortar/peat outside might look more attractive even
> >when not overgrown.
> >
> >Wim0
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Keith Rogers [k*@iprimus.com.au]
> >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 09:13
> >To: ferns@hort.net
> >Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees
> >
> >
> >Hi Wim
> >
> >Forget Mortar, it appears not to be a concrete suggestion!!
> >
> >Use 4 in or 6in PVC Sewer pipe for an erect pipe perhaps 3 or 4 ft long.
> >
> >You could just do a series of cuts in the pipe 3 or 4 inches long with a
> >hacksaw around the circumference in varying positions.
> >
> >Warm it up bending the upper in and the lower out, this forms a say half
> >cup
> >shape.
> >The problem is if you put the pipe in the oven to real hot, the lot becomes
> >pliable.
> >Heating with a blow torch, burns.
> >Perhaps a hair drier would work.
> >
> >Clean up the rough edges with a file and sandpaper.
> >
> >Get a PVC cap, add a larger base for support, cut drain holes in it and
> glue
> >onto bottom.
> >
> >The contents is easy, use sphagnum moss.
> >
> >Kindest regards
> >
> >Keith Rogers
> >Mannum  South Australia
> >
> >Keith's Fern Page is at
> >www.lm.net.au/~kerogers/
> >Supporting the Fern Society of South Australia on
> >www.chariot.net.au/~saufern/
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Winter, Wim de" <Wim.dewinter@wisl.nl>
> >To: <ferns@hort.net>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:12 AM
> >Subject: [ferns] artificial trees
> >
> >
> >> A colleage of mine told me something about constructing artificial trees
> >for epiphyte growth. However, he did not know any details. Maybe some of
> >you
> >do?
> >>
> >> It starts with a pvc drainpipe. This is enveloped with a mixture of mortar
> >and peat (1:2 ?). Litthe holes in the pipe allow water from the pipe's
> >interior to moisten the outside substratum. Cups could be shaped in the
> >mortar to allow for easier planting.
> >>
> >> It's an intriguing idea, but imagining to construct it, questions arise:
> >>
> >> - whats the size of the holes?
> >> - is the pipe topped of with water, so should it be water tight at the
> >bottom end?
> >> - is the pipe filled up with any kind of spongy matter?
> >> - is 1:2 the correct mortar:peat rate?
> >> - isn't the mortar to alkaline for epiphytic species?
> >>
> >> Any experiences?
> >>
> >> Wim de Winter
> >>
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