Re: artificial trees

Hi Betty

Don't suppose there is any images of it

Keith
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "betty" <bkhamilton@earthlink.net>
To: <ferns@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees


> Hi to all,
>     At Chicago they mused everything from wire and fishing line to hot
glue gun
> and foam insulation, which is quite sticky, and would fill spaces and
provide a
> good adhesion for plant substrates, and can be covered with sphagmun which
it
> will hold as well.  mBefore mthe plants cover the orange of the foam, it
looks
> like a fungus peaking out!  (It is formaldehyde based, and not good inside
untill
> it has cured for a while.)  Whatever works elsewhere will work on the PVC
base.
>
> cheers, Betty
>
> kerogers@iprimus.com.au wrote:
>
> > Hi Wim and others
> >
> > I have also used wire netting made into a 4 in round and filled with
sphagnum
> > moss or old willow roots to grow epiphytes.  This wire only lasts a few
years,
> > stainless would be better, but expensive.
> >
> > To use PVC as a strengthen tube, it would need to have some method to
hold
> > the sphagnum to the pipe.  Perhaps wire or stainless netting would do
the
> > job.
> >
> > Yes the PVC I mentioned is used here to grow strawberries and would be
useful
> > for small ferns too.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > >-- Original Message --
> > >Subject: RE: [ferns] artificial trees
> > >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:17:54 +0200
> > >From: "Winter, Wim de" <Wim.dewinter@wisl.nl>
> > >To: <ferns@hort.net>
> > >Reply-To: ferns@hort.net
> > >
> > >
> > >Keith,
> > >
> > >The result of what you describe is much like the terracotta earthenware
> > dovecots
> > >that are commercially sold here as "strawberry pots" (see for shape,
but
> > >apparently different material http://www.potvis.org/Gallery_2_4.html).
You
> > >remind me that I still wanted to try them for fern use.
> > >
> > >The difference with the proposed method is that the plants only can
crop
> > >out from your predifined cups, at least, I suppose the won't grow over
the
> > >pvc outside. Also, the mortar/peat outside might look more attractive
even
> > >when not overgrown.
> > >
> > >Wim0
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Keith Rogers [k*@iprimus.com.au]
> > >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 09:13
> > >To: ferns@hort.net
> > >Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Wim
> > >
> > >Forget Mortar, it appears not to be a concrete suggestion!!
> > >
> > >Use 4 in or 6in PVC Sewer pipe for an erect pipe perhaps 3 or 4 ft
long.
> > >
> > >You could just do a series of cuts in the pipe 3 or 4 inches long with
a
> > >hacksaw around the circumference in varying positions.
> > >
> > >Warm it up bending the upper in and the lower out, this forms a say
half
> > >cup
> > >shape.
> > >The problem is if you put the pipe in the oven to real hot, the lot
becomes
> > >pliable.
> > >Heating with a blow torch, burns.
> > >Perhaps a hair drier would work.
> > >
> > >Clean up the rough edges with a file and sandpaper.
> > >
> > >Get a PVC cap, add a larger base for support, cut drain holes in it and
> > glue
> > >onto bottom.
> > >
> > >The contents is easy, use sphagnum moss.
> > >
> > >Kindest regards
> > >
> > >Keith Rogers
> > >Mannum  South Australia
> > >
> > >Keith's Fern Page is at
> > >www.lm.net.au/~kerogers/
> > >Supporting the Fern Society of South Australia on
> > >www.chariot.net.au/~saufern/
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Winter, Wim de" <Wim.dewinter@wisl.nl>
> > >To: <ferns@hort.net>
> > >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:12 AM
> > >Subject: [ferns] artificial trees
> > >
> > >
> > >> A colleage of mine told me something about constructing artificial
trees
> > >for epiphyte growth. However, he did not know any details. Maybe some
of
> > >you
> > >do?
> > >>
> > >> It starts with a pvc drainpipe. This is enveloped with a mixture of
mortar
> > >and peat (1:2 ?). Litthe holes in the pipe allow water from the pipe's
> > >interior to moisten the outside substratum. Cups could be shaped in the
> > >mortar to allow for easier planting.
> > >>
> > >> It's an intriguing idea, but imagining to construct it, questions
arise:
> > >>
> > >> - whats the size of the holes?
> > >> - is the pipe topped of with water, so should it be water tight at
the
> > >bottom end?
> > >> - is the pipe filled up with any kind of spongy matter?
> > >> - is 1:2 the correct mortar:peat rate?
> > >> - isn't the mortar to alkaline for epiphytic species?
> > >>
> > >> Any experiences?
> > >>
> > >> Wim de Winter
> > >>
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