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Re: Re: [CHAT now vaccines was now IOWA-


That's what my kids got, Cyndi--the sugar cube. I took it, too, but I was an adult. Most--maybe all--immunizations did not exist when I was a little kid. A tyke at my first birthday party died of scarlet fever a week or so later; I had all those childhood diseases, except scarlet fever--measles [for some reason they darkened the room until the fistulas healed], mumps, whooping cough [for this, they boiled eucalyptus leaves in an old coffee pot in my room], and who knows what else. My younger brother got polio in the late-30s and we were quarantined by LA County; my mother [remember, she was the daughter of a homeopath] put more credence in Sister Kinney than in iron lungs, so she forced him to exercise 24/7. He has no trace of the affliction today [unless, of course, he can't figure out any other way to get out of something he doesn't want to do--then it becomes a major "war wound" excuse].



On Apr 3, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT wrote:

I remember getting the polio vaccine on a sugar cube. I never got a smallpox
vaccination though, long time ago my mother said I got so sick after
vaccinations she was afraid to have me get that one. I guess it wouldn't
provide any protection now anyway.


Cyndi

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Zemuly Sanders
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:30 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: [CHATnow IOWA-

I remember the polio epidemic, too. My mother was scared to death I would
get it. I was fascinated by the iron lungs.
zem
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: [CHATnow IOWA-


I went through a terrible polio epidemic in South Texas when I was
young...closed all public places...my dad had a touch but regained the use
of his arm. When the vaccine came out several years later, we were
thrilled to get it. All such precautions have downsides on someone whose
chemistry is different...we just don't seem to be able to accept risk and
non-blame consequences. Too many people don't remember or know that many
died of infections before WWII.


[Original Message]
From: Judy Browning <judylee@lewiston.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Date: 4/3/2006 9:01:40 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: [CHATnow IOWA-

Or ever had to suffer though "childhood" diseases themselves. I still
remember my bouts of measles and mumps. Smallpox and polio vaccines were
available when I was a child, so I didn't have to endure those. As
uncomfortable as injections can be, it's nothing to the malaise of the
illness. No child I am responsible for will have to go through any of
that!
Judy B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zemuly Sanders" <zsanders@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: [CHATnow IOWA-


I seem to recall something about mercury or some other contaminant in
the
immunizations. Obviously the parents had never seen anybody with any of
the diseases.
zem
----- Original Message -----
From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: [CHATnow IOWA-


I've never been able to understand why supposedly educated adults do
not
have their children immunized against childhood diseases--especially
if
they have been immunized in infancy themselves and spared the trauma
of
DPT, small pox, polio, and whatever else. Are they sacrificing their
children because of some crackpot conviction that the biosphere is
benign, or is something else going on that I don't know about. I'm
glad
that Iowa has mandatory vaccination rules; I  wish every state did.

On Apr 2, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Zemuly Sanders wrote:

Certainly not. I'm sure my grands were immunized at the appropriate
age since their mother is a nurse. I had mumps back when the earth
was
cooling and I was a girl.  Maybe this will encourage young parents
to
do more investigation before making the decision not to immunize.
zem
----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa"
<tchessie1@sbcglobal.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: [CHATnow IOWA-


I don't think it is a drug resistant strain- it is a common strain
apparently. I worry that it is related to the number of parents
who
have opted not to immunize their kids (for multiple reasons), so
there
is more of the germ around everyone. There was a theory that a
college student from England may have broght it over with them- so
clearly not the type of immigrant population you were thinking.

Theresa

Zemuly Sanders wrote:

I just heard that on the news. Do you think it has to do with
immigrant populations who lack good pediatric care? It's probably
some horrible drug resistant strain -- like the TB in Florida.
Good
grief!
zem
----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa"
<tchessie1@sbcglobal.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:10 PM
Subject: [CHAT] Re: [CHATnow IOWA-


And, for some reason Iowa also has a mumps epidemic (250 cases)
going on
right now- what's up with that? You all stay away from anyone who
isn't
feeling well OK! Even people who were immunized are getting it!

Theresa

Cersgarden@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 3/31/06 5:33:37 AM, gossiper@sbcglobal.net
writes:




What an outstretch for someone 50+



Actually, Donna, there are lots of   that age going from our
area.
I
believe they are saying Iowa has one of the highest numbers
seeing
active duty.
Some have been there a couple times which was preceeded by Desert
Storm duty.
Ceres


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